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Old 05-26-2016, 06:14 PM
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Whelp... Since my last thread about updating electronics I have purchased the Garmin Radar 24 xHD. The other thing on the list was Auto Pilot, which is still coming eventually.

This thread however is going to be about Sonar Modules, Transducers and MFD's...

I have recently relocated to NC and will now be doing most of my fishing in the Atlantic. I have not had a chance to make it out there yet, and am in the beginning phases of research about depths, target species, and what times of the year to fish. Since I have purchased the boat Garmin has really progressed with what they offer.

Currently I have the following;

4210 MFD
GSD 22
B60 Transducer

Ultimately what I would like to do is upgrade to either the 4612xsv or the 4615xsv and new Transducer, but due to budget constraints at the time I may be stuck with just upgrading my sonar module and transducer to the GSD25 and ____________ fill in the blank transducer.

I have two primary questions....

Would I be wasting money if I upgraded to the GSD25 and a new 1KW Transducer? Should I just move to either the 4612xsv or 4615xsv and new transducer? If I need to stretch the budget I can.

Second... Which Transducer would be the best???? This is where I am completely lost. I know I probably want at least a 1KW Transducer (The B60 is 600w and I know wont reach the depth I'll need fishing in the Atlantic/Bahamas. Last time I did a crossing, if memory serves me right I think I lost bottom at 400-500'). I also know I want a CHIRP transducer, but what frequency range would be best?

In the gulf (where I fished before) I rarely saw depths of more than 150'. I'm assuming I will now be seeing depths of 200-700' regularly and would like to see good bottom definition at those depths. I'd also like to see what depth I'm in up to 1500-2000' is that realistic?

Thats all I can think of right now. What do you think? The boat is at Anglers Marine in Supply NC for the 200hr service and I will be doing a crossing to the Bahamas Mid June. I'd like to have them to the upgrades while they have it.
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The GSD-25 cannot be used with the 4210.
You can use the GSD-24 or the GSD-26.

if you upgrade to a xsv unit....a B175M will be a good choice for 200-700' that you mentioned.



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As always Gil, great info. Thank you.

If I went with a GSD24 and new Transducer, which would you recommend?
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Originally Posted by 03silverTJ View Post
Whelp... Since my last thread about updating electronics I have purchased the Garmin Radar 24 xHD. The other thing on the list was Auto Pilot, which is still coming eventually.

This thread however is going to be about Sonar Modules, Transducers and MFD's...

I have recently relocated to NC and will now be doing most of my fishing in the Atlantic. I have not had a chance to make it out there yet, and am in the beginning phases of research about depths, target species, and what times of the year to fish. Since I have purchased the boat Garmin has really progressed with what they offer.

Currently I have the following;

4210 MFD
GSD 22
B60 Transducer

Ultimately what I would like to do is upgrade to either the 4612xsv or the 4615xsv and new Transducer, but due to budget constraints at the time I may be stuck with just upgrading my sonar module and transducer to the GSD25 and ____________ fill in the blank transducer.

I have two primary questions....

Would I be wasting money if I upgraded to the GSD25 and a new 1KW Transducer? Should I just move to either the 4612xsv or 4615xsv and new transducer? If I need to stretch the budget I can.

Second... Which Transducer would be the best???? This is where I am completely lost. I know I probably want at least a 1KW Transducer (The B60 is 600w and I know wont reach the depth I'll need fishing in the Atlantic/Bahamas. Last time I did a crossing, if memory serves me right I think I lost bottom at 400-500'). I also know I want a CHIRP transducer, but what frequency range would be best?

In the gulf (where I fished before) I rarely saw depths of more than 150'. I'm assuming I will now be seeing depths of 200-700' regularly and would like to see good bottom definition at those depths. I'd also like to see what depth I'm in up to 1500-2000' is that realistic?

Thats all I can think of right now. What do you think? The boat is at Anglers Marine in Supply NC for the 200hr service and I will be doing a crossing to the Bahamas Mid June. I'd like to have them to the upgrades while they have it.
You should look to the GSD26 and go CHIRP.
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Originally Posted by 03silverTJ View Post
As always Gil, great info. Thank you.

If I went with a GSD24 and new Transducer, which would you recommend?
You have several options with the GSD-24.

The 3 element flush mounted B164.

A B260 8 elemetn and about 44 times more sensitve than the B164..but is has a 22" fairing.
The element can be pocket mounted.

The M260 in hull..same elements as the B260....you can lose a bit of depth due to the attenuation of the hull.

The SS264 pair..same elements as the B260....not cheap.

Or...

Get a 840xs or a 1040xs and a single B175M.


Lots of options.


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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineBrian View Post
You should look to the GSD26 and go CHIRP.
But then I'm right on the edge of the cost of going with one of the 7612xsv's and Transducer, and if I'm "right there" then I may as well go all the way. Would the GSD26 have better bottom resolution and target separation then on of the xsv units? Also what Transducer would you recommend paired with the GSD26?

Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
You have several options with the GSD-24.

The 3 element flush mounted B164.

A B260 8 elemetn and about 44 times more sensitve than the B164..but is has a 22" fairing.
The element can be pocket mounted.

The M260 in hull..same elements as the B260....you can lose a bit of depth due to the attenuation of the hull.

The SS264 pair..same elements as the B260....not cheap.

Or...

Get a 840xs or a 1040xs and a single B175M.


Lots of options.


Ok, I've got to do some reading now... The B164 sounds good, but 44 times the sensitivity sounds really good... Does that really effect the performance of the boat though? What are the drawbacks?
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B265. I read that you currently have a machine on the boat correct!
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I do. Currently have a 4210 but I'm playing with the idea of upgrading to the 4612 as well. I'm just weighing the differences in costs and the pro's and con's to each option.
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineBrian View Post
B265. I read that you currently have a machine on the boat correct!
At the depths I referenced would the B265LH be best or the B265LM? And to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. This particular transducer has two freq ranges that it can operate within? Yes?
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineBrian View Post
B265. I read that you currently have a machine on the boat correct!
Was told that the B265 would not be compatible with my boat, what gives? That was by my local electronics installer....
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Why did they say it would be compatible? The B275lhw would also be one to look at
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Originally Posted by 03silverTJ View Post
But then I'm right on the edge of the cost of going with one of the 7612xsv's and Transducer, and if I'm "right there" then I may as well go all the way. Would the GSD26 have better bottom resolution and target separation then on of the xsv units? Also what Transducer would you recommend paired with the GSD26?



Ok, I've got to do some reading now... The B164 sounds good, but 44 times the sensitivity sounds really good... Does that really effect the performance of the boat though? What are the drawbacks?
The GSD-26 is better when going past 1000' and using the Low band..lets say .. the Low of a B275LH.
But the xsv by itself will be fine with a B265 LH under 1000'.

But ...the B265LH has a 22" faring.....not compatible with most boats under 30' or those trailed.




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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineBrian View Post
Why did they say it would be compatible? The B275lhw would also be one to look at
Brian,

They didn't say, just that it wouldn't work with my boat. Maybe because it is less than 30'??? I can certainly ask them though...

Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
The GSD-26 is better when going past 1000' and using the Low band..lets say .. the Low of a B275LH.
But the xsv by itself will be fine with a B265 LH under 1000'.

But ...the B265LH has a 22" faring.....not compatible with most boats under 30' or those trailed.




Gil,

I see that the B275LH is compatible with boats of 25' or more, but would trailering be an issue with this transducer? I see that it is not a flush mount.

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