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Old 01-15-2016, 06:57 PM
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I finally was able to sea trial yesterday and had some issues. abbor help!!

Med chirp 800 was selected and would lose bottom anything over 30 knots. The digital output sometimes would read say 235 and the bottom was clearly marking 110??. Side scan sucked and the down view wasn't marking at all. The SS plug is factory wired but the chirp was a pig tail that I connected and soldered. Pic coming;?
Old 01-16-2016, 05:34 AM
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Medium chirp 800?

Medium chirp on one and 800 on the SS must be what you mean. I'm told for water that depth you should use 400 on SS.
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Yhea that's right
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Side scan is probably not going to work in 100 feet of water. Mine stops around there when my boat is in Florida. It works to 150 in NJ. Probably the salt content of the water.

You need to use the 455 setting for anything over 20 feet. I generaly double the depth for the side scan. So say you are in 50feet of water set the side scan for 100 feet out.

Imagine it's like a flashlight beam going out to the side. It will be brighter near the boat and where it can accurately reflect back and weaker at the far edge of the beam and disappear into darkness.
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Default Simrad evo2 nss12 B175cm wired??

From the ducer to pigtail I have
Yellow/orange
Blk/blk
Brwn/bare ground
Red/blue
Not used ducer side
Blue/orange/bare grand
Not used pigtail side
Wht/red/green/bare grnd
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Also unable to segregate frequency sent to its respective ducer. When I'm on the chirp and select med chirp it also switches the other two SS screens frequency to 800 too. When I select either SS screen and select the other frequency it also switch my chirp at the same time. These are plugged into two separate evo2nss12 units???
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Can't help ya on the CHIRP, but with the SS/DV. Should work fine up to about 10-12kts, then it's a loosing battle, that's from my experience and as per the NAVICO tech. But at slower speeds, the DV should pick up a nice clean pic to about 240', that's as deep as I've fished up here. The SS isn't the greatest mush past about 150.
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angrymullet, where are you located in FL? (you can PM me if you don't want to broadcast it on here)
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Originally Posted by angrymullet View Post
From the ducer to pigtail I have
Yellow[/orange
Blk/blk
Brwn/bare ground
Red/blue
Not used ducer side
Blue/orange/bare grand
Not used pigtail side
Wht/red/green/bare grnd
Ok looking over your connections and if I'm reading it correctly your combinations are Transducer/Pigtail, if that's correct then it seems way off. Are you getting the B175 listed in the "Transducer List"?

This is the combination that I did that works and still works perfect today: (going on your same order)

Transduer / Pigtail

BLUE / RED
ORANGE / YELLOW
BLACK / BLACK
BRWN + O. BARE / OUTER BARE
INNER BARE / INNER BARE (DEPTH GROUND)

Remember the CHIRP and SS don't work at the same time. What version of software are you running?

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Originally Posted by mahimahi99 View Post
Ok looking over your connections and if I'm reading it correctly your combinations are Transducer/Pigtail, if that's correct then it seems way off. Are you getting the B175 listed in the "Transducer List"?

This is the combination that I did that works and still works perfect today: (going on your same order)

Transduer / Pigtail

BLUE / RED
ORANGE / YELLOW
BLACK / BLACK
BRWN + O. BARE + I. BARE (make sure these bares DO NOT TOUCH) / DEPTH GROUND

Remember the CHIRP and SS don't work at the same time. What version of software are you running?
Looks like I have the blue/red backwards
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Originally Posted by angrymullet View Post
Looks like I have the blue/red backwards
What does the brown+bare+ bare mean is they are not supposed to touch?
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Originally Posted by angrymullet View Post
What does the brown+bare+ bare mean is they are not supposed to touch?
Also updated software to the newest offering last week
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Originally Posted by angrymullet View Post
What does the brown+bare+ bare mean is they are not supposed to touch?
Damn I see the bold and colors screwed up the table (updated now).
Anyways there's 2 Bare's on the transducer side and two on the pig tail side (each component will have an inner and outer bare), so I put heat shrink on one of them (I think I did it to the outer pigtail and outer transducer), so inner bare wire of the pig tail will go to the inner bare wire of the transducer and the outer bare wire and Brown wire of the transducer.
Cool I figured yo probably updated the software, but I thought I'd ask anyways just to rule out one more thing.
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Okay so I'm at a loss. The wire configuration that I have was in fact correct based on your configuration Mahi. The only diff that I had was the brown was connected to the outer bare wire. I change this and still seems to be the same results. Also the DS still doesn't work and the SS will work sometimes.(when it will allow me to run the different frequencies). I'm going offshore tomorrow hopefully something will change
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Also I was told with the update that I should be able to run both ss and chirp as long as they were plugged into seperate units.
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I.Bare and O.Bare should not touch, this is also valid for the respective shields.

With two NSS Evo2 it's been possible to run StructureScan and 2D CHIRP at the same time since two software versions ago.
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Originally Posted by angrymullet View Post
Okay so I'm at a loss. The wire configuration that I have was in fact correct based on your configuration Mahi. The only diff that I had was the brown was connected to the outer bare wire. I change this and still seems to be the same results. Also the DS still doesn't work and the SS will work sometimes.(when it will allow me to run the different frequencies). I'm going offshore tomorrow hopefully something will change
Ok well the way you wrote your match up was:
"ducer / pigtail"
Yellow /orange
Blk/blk
Brwn/bare ground
Red/blue
Not used ducer side
Blue/orange/bare grand
Not used pigtail side
Wht/red/green/bare grnd


This is what I wrote:

Transduer / Pigtail

BLUE / RED
ORANGE / YELLOW
BLACK / BLACK
BRWN + O. BARE / OUTER BARE
INNER BARE / INNER BARE (DEPTH GROUND)


So if that's the case then the yellow and orange is wrong as well, you need to use the BLUE on the transducer, not the RED on the transducer, Yhe BLUE (transducer) connects to the RED of the pigtail. You need to use the ORANGE on the transducer which needs to be connected to the YELLOW of the pigtail. The BARE wires you say you're not using NEED to be connected as well. This is unless you wrote "From the ducer to pigtail I have:" and what you say you don't have connected or not used backwards.

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