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Old 01-13-2016, 08:06 AM
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Can anyone give me an idea of how much it would cost to install the following on a new 22' bay boat? Boat currently has no electronics. Boat is on a trailer. This is my first new boat and have no idea what is reasonable for labor, either hourly rate or number of hours.

Recommendations for an installer in the FL Keys would also be appreciated.

Garmin 5212 installed on a bracket mount. (not enough room on dash to flush mount)
GSD 22
Garmin 17x NMEA 2k antenna
Garmin transom mount transducer
(have nmea starter kit)

Standard Horizon Eclipse GX1300 flush mounted
(have flush mount kit)
Digital 4' antenna
stainless antenna mount

Jensen stereo head unit flush mounted
(4) Infinity 6.5" speakers

Old 01-13-2016, 08:16 AM
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15ish hours
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Originally Posted by yachtjim View Post
15ish hours
Thanks!
Old 01-13-2016, 03:38 PM
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Why not get a 7212? Its a much faster unit at the same price point? Also the GSD22? Old unit. No longer supported. Get a GSD24. Standard 1300? Yikes. GX2150 or GX2200. They come with AIS for a few dollars more. Lastly, Jensen headunit? Eeeeeek. Go Fusion.
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Originally Posted by I'm on a boat View Post
Why not get a 7212? Its a much faster unit at the same price point? Also the GSD22? Old unit. No longer supported. Get a GSD24. Standard 1300? Yikes. GX2150 or GX2200. They come with AIS for a few dollars more. Lastly, Jensen headunit? Eeeeeek. Go Fusion.
Did you ever think that something called "budget" played a roll in his selection of electronics. This may be news to you, but not everyone is made of money. His choice of electronics, while older, are still considered decent. Since your comment did not help answer his question perhaps you should go troll elsewhere. Sheeesh!
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Originally Posted by n1server View Post
Did you ever think that something called "budget" played a roll in his selection of electronics. This may be news to you, but not everyone is made of money. His choice of electronics, while older, are still considered decent. Since your comment did not help answer his question perhaps you should go troll elsewhere. Sheeesh!
Wow. I am not even sure how to respond? I offered some advise, based on current prices and significant improvements in technology, and you start dropping bombs calling me a troll?

Lets clarify:
  1. The 5212 unit is actually more (new) than the 7212 unit? So by suggesting the OP look at the 7212 unit I would be saving him money?
  2. GSD22 vs. GSD24 - the GSD24 is a significantly better unit and the GSD22 is no longer supported by Garmin. If the OP plans to fish, this would be worth the additional out of pocket.
  3. GX2150/GX2200 are about $150 more than a GX1300 and they also have the ability to display AIS directly to the chart plotter. There has been so much written about AIS on this site. Search it. When you are done searching it, think to yourself "If I was outfitting a new boat, would I want to spend $150 extra to have this technology??"

I will also point out that if the OP is buying this equipment used, there are other options, such as the above models I specified. Happy to discuss that offline (via PM).
Lastly, I will note that to your chagrin, your reply to my post, your ninth post ever on THT.com, was of great benefit to the THT.com community. My previous 1,400 post, including several where I detail scams aimed at boaters (like this one: http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...-good-one.html) can't compare to your in depth breakdown of my reply.
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Originally Posted by n1server View Post
Did you ever think that something called "budget" played a roll in his selection of electronics. This may be news to you, but not everyone is made of money. His choice of electronics, while older, are still considered decent. Since your comment did not help answer his question perhaps you should go troll elsewhere. Sheeesh!
Are you serious? He gave good advise.
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I could do this in 8'hours and I am far from a pro, especially with a transom mount ducer and bracket mount display.
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Appreciate the feedback. Perhaps I should clarify the intended use of the boat. I'm open to suggestions. The boat will be used 50% of the time cruising with family to the sandbar, 25% snorkeling and diving for lobster and 25% fishing. Fishing will primarily target inshore species on shallow flats, tarpon by bridges and on a good day maybe venture past the reef for dolphin.

I got the 5212 for a ridiculous deal. It's freshly refurbished from Garmin still sealed in plastic with the latest software updates. This is the only item that is used but it looks brand new. Based on my use I don't think I'll need a bottom machine to distinguish detail on a wreck in 150' of water. This is not an offshore boat and don't intend to use it as such. What I do need is it to tell me how deep I am when running in 2' of water on the gulf side crossing shallow flats.

The only thing I have so far is the 5212. I plan to buy the rest this week and install asap. Yes, I would like to keep a reasonable budget. Based on feedback the Jensen is out. Will look at fusion or clarion. I don't need to rock the whole neighborhood but don't want the unit to die within a year.

Still think I need gsd24? How about an ais equipped vhf? Not very many ais equipped vessels that I can think of in the inshore areas I will primarily use the boat. Will usually be within site of land and cell service.

Thanks!
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A GSD 22 is useless... get the 24.
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To the OP. I would agree with some of the other posters on here & see if you couldn't find it in your budget to step up to a newer technology 7612xsv. Not that there's too much wrong with the 5212 (or to a degree the GSD22) but the 7612 will save you ton of labor with it's built in GPS antenna & built in Chirp sounder, plus the serviceability will be much longer than with the system you mentioned. I would bet Garmin is not going to be repairing the 5212 & gsd for too much longer.
Regarding labor on your wish list, I'm with Bubba60 & 8 hours should be enough for that install,provided there isn't any glitches with the stereo speaker placement. Running 4 pairs of wires to 4 corners of the boat can be a pain!
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...oops,my post is moot! I see you already have the 5212!
Carry on!
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Based on feedback GSD 24 has been ordered. Just need stereo and vhf now.

Any recommendations on VHF and antenna for a bay boat? Also recommendations for stereo and speakers? Looking for a simple stereo system powered by the head unit. Would like to keep the budget reasonable on the renaming items.

Was able to get a quote from a mobile installer. Does $1,300 for labor seem reasonable?
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Originally Posted by squirm88 View Post
Based on feedback GSD 24 has been ordered. Just need stereo and vhf now.

Any recommendations on VHF and antenna for a bay boat? Also recommendations for stereo and speakers? Looking for a simple stereo system powered by the head unit. Would like to keep the budget reasonable on the renaming items.

Was able to get a quote from a mobile installer. Does $1,300 for labor seem reasonable?
You wont be disappointed with the GSD24. It's not as good as the GSD25 (with CHIRP/sideview) however its light years ahead of the GSD22.

For a VHF, I love my GX2150. I use the AIS from time to time. Standard Horizon also has the best warranty - period. The GX1700 is like $75 less. Its a big screen VHF radio, with built in GPS for DSC, however without AIS. To me, the $75 more for AIS is worth it. Especially because the AIS works well with the Garmin 5000 series.

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, you have to go Fusion. The UD650 is really nice (bluetooth streaming built in) however its pricey. Lowest you will find is north of $400. Maybe try and score an older/leftover IP700/IP700i? Those are the same power (max/RMS) however they don't have built in bluetooth and aren't optimized for pandora stream. Maybe go used? If you have to have bluetooth as an option, you could add a BT200 for streaming music. But then you might as well drop the $400ish and buy a UD650. That said, for streaming music its pretty easy to get a 3.5mm cable and connect it to the Fusion headunit. Then just plug your phone in and stream away. Less complicated (less shit to break) and save money.

You don't need an amp (though they are nice) but make sure you put in four speakers. When powered by a headunit only, four speakers is twice as loud as two. 2+2=4 see how smart I am

The other option (though not my personal choice) would be to buy an amp and go no headunit. Basically the source for your amp would be your phone. Connection is a pair of RCA splitters and a 3.5mm cable. This with four speakers will sound very loud/crisp however you will only be able to use music from a phone/ipod. (no radio) The other problem is you have no volume control at the helm. Everything is done from the phone/ipod.

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by squirm88 View Post
Can anyone give me an idea of how much it would cost to install the following on a new 22' bay boat? Boat currently has no electronics. Boat is on a trailer. This is my first new boat and have no idea what is reasonable for labor, either hourly rate or number of hours.

Recommendations for an installer in the FL Keys would also be appreciated.

Garmin 5212 installed on a bracket mount. (not enough room on dash to flush mount)
GSD 22
Garmin 17x NMEA 2k antenna
Garmin transom mount transducer
(have nmea starter kit)

Standard Horizon Eclipse GX1300 flush mounted
(have flush mount kit)
Digital 4' antenna
stainless antenna mount

Jensen stereo head unit flush mounted
(4) Infinity 6.5" speakers

Couple of questions:
What year make and model of bay boat?
Is there a T-top?
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Originally Posted by mahimahi99 View Post
Couple of questions:
What year make and model of bay boat?
Is there a T-top?
2016 Cobia 21 Bay
http://www.cobiaboats.com/boats/21-bay/
No T-Top
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You got a $1300 labor quote to put those things on a 21' Cobia with no t-top??? That's about right...if their rate is $260 an hour.
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Well I don't know if Cobia has changed their rigging tubes on the newer models of their Bay boats but I just rigged a 2013 21 Bay and the rigging from the transom to the console was a PITA, compared to other Bay boats but that shouldn't affect the quote. I installed a Fusion 650, 4 JL 6.5 mx series (2 in the console & 2 in the front), Humminbird Helix 7 si (flush mounted) & SH GX1700 (flush mounted) with a 3' Shakespeare SS antenna mounted on the side of the console with ss mount. The customer supplied all of the equipment, his install was $700. It would have been less had his HB been bail mounted and minus the front 2 spkrs (itsucked getting the spkr wire to the console). One note, on that year model Cobia didn't supply a separate fuse panel, rather everything was connected to the switches and their respective circuit breaker with only one "ACC" switch and breaker for anything extra. Anytime I see a boat rigged like that I always suggest to my customers that we install a separate block for the electronics so that they are separate from the boat's system, is it necessary? no but I feel as though it's my responsibility to at least suggest it and explain why. So if yours is like that, if it were me, I'd ask your installer how much would it be to put one in. On his I installed the separate fuse block w/negative for these electronics, it included a direct positive and negative that came directly from the battery switch so the electronics had their own power, that added another $150 including the wire and block. So in short he got a NMEA Certified install for that equipment for $850 which included all of the connectors and zip ties, etc, I quote/charge per piece of equipment and per boat not by the hour which isn't a standard in this industry, but on that particular install I think it took approx 7-8 hours (I don't remember though). So even though it's not exactly like the equipment you're installing it's fairly similar and hopefully it'll give you a ballpark. I'm not saying 8 or 15 hours is wrong because I haven't installed anything on your year/model boat but I bet it's somewhere in there and the standard rate is around $100-110/hour down here in the Bay area for labor on installation.

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