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Old 06-28-2015, 07:35 AM
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#1 Should the installer have consulted me on the location of the Garmin XM antenna? See photo. I would have preferred to have it on the hard top even though not recommended by Garmin due to the radar and VHF antenna being up there and potential interference.

#2 Is there a problem with one of my thru hull fairing blocks? One appears to be missing part of the block. Is it ok to leave like this?
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Old 06-28-2015, 07:48 AM
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Personally i would not have put the XM antenna there. Looks like it would be in the way. Mine is mounted inside the ebox on my hard top and picks up great. Both the gps and xm antennas can be mounted under fiberglass now.
And i would say that block needs to be replaced since it is split into pieces.
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I would agree that the antenna placement looks odd, but I also own a Pursuit and I have noticed another boat like mine that had a satellite antenna in that same location. I am also pretty sure that Pursuit pre wires some of their boats for an antenna in that location as my boat had an antenna wire that terminates just underneath that location from the factory.

The fairing block does look like a piece has broken off.
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I think the installer may be impaired.
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Your fairing should look like this.......





Not cut in two pieces....where you have lost the integral strength of a complete unit.
That install is not what I consider a positive as there are ways to even the inner hull or relocate so that proper install is possible.
Also.....was any adhesive/sealant was used to bond to the inner hull ?

http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/Th...uctions_EN.pdf

Page 8 ...# 5 : Apply marine sealant to the face of the backing block the must contact the inner hull.

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Old 06-28-2015, 12:13 PM
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That's terrible there should be no reason for that especially when you pay somebody to install it correctly. Some installers shouldn't be installers. I found that out the hard way for myself when my transducer install leaked took it back to have it fixed they fixed it and it leaked again. Butcher marine.
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I have a slightly different take on the fairing. It had to be cut, as the interior surface is uneven. In the cases of the fairing on the inside of the hull, it is only used as a washer of sorts, a washer that happens to be cut to the exact deadrise of the boat so that the hardware tightens straight and even. Even though the fairing is foam, the structurally important part of the fairing is the plastic which is still there, the tan foam of the fairing is not structural in for what it's being used for. Best to install in one piece - yes, I agree, but I don't see imminent disaster in the pictures above...bear in mind, the only piece broken off is on one of the two anti-rotational bolts, not the main stem. Look at the other side, ALL there is is foam and a ring of plastic where the bolt comes through.

The XM antenna looks stupid there IMO.
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Thank you for the comments. I'm taking the boat to the dealer tomorrow for 20 hour service. We'll see what their take is on this.

I learned a lot from the members of this site when selecting my electronics package. I learned things the marina's installer didn't know. Such as, he insisted I would not get XM radio through my stereo. He said basically said internet forums were full of people who don't know what they're talking about. He said I would only get weather alerts. I told him to just go a head and install to the aux input of my stereo and guess what? It worked.

He located one of Garmin 7612 units so close to the edge of the console he had to grind the stainless steel latch to make it fit.

I'm trying to forget about the XM antenna install now that it's done. I just don't think installers should drill holes in other people's boats without consulting them first.

Oh yea. He said I would only get radar and sonar on one of the 7612s. He didn't know you needed a data cable between them.
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Yeah the cutting of the fairing block could have been avoided had he gone aft about 2".....or just notch the fairing block. That has to be the 1st time I've ever seen a fairing block cut in half like that, ever. I don't see any sealant in here either, even when applied in a clean manner you should see a little. ;?
Worst place in the world for that antenna, 1st time someone steps on that, breaks and falls off the boat, your installer/dealer will be buying you a new one.
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I forgot to ask one other question. The installer wired the Garmin equipment directly to the battery. Is this correct? I see unused accessory switches on the console. Should he have wired through these switches?
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They could have been wired to your ACC switches...but I am sure there is a circuit fuse block under your console somewhere...probably easily accessible would be my guess. I would have been them on that protected circuit in the event something electrical were to backfire...it would be protected. Not so sure that I would have ran them directly to the battery.
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Is there an external strainer on the through hull ahead of the port side ducer or is there enough fairing block on the outside of the hull to get the face of the ducer below any turbulence?

I don't think so but did the installer also remove the hull's inner skin and coring in that area causing the two different levels in the first place? I may be too critical but usually when you remove them like that you glass over the transition to carry the strength over the thinner area of the hull.
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I found some pics of the transducers.
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I see he wasn't too shy in showing you the amount of sealant he used
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In hindsight I regret having the dealer install my electronics. I only spoke with the service manager. I never spoke with the actual installer. Before deciding to go with the dealer I was talking to a guy who does nothing but electronics installation work. He's a one man show that does nice work. I should have used him. It had nothing to do with install cost. I thought it would less coordination hassle to go with the dealer.
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Nothing should be wired directly to the battery except bilge pump, and possibly accesory cord from radio so you don't loose any pretuned stations..

Wired to a pos and neg block that goes to a battery switch that goes to the batteries
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I've never seen a transducer mounted like that. Is that right?

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