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Old 02-24-2015, 04:06 PM
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Question Epirb Suggestion

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We have a PLB but thinking of going a little further out in the gulf of Mexico, primarily in fair weather....

Any suggestion on an automatically releasing epirb?

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The ACR Global Fix Pro Cat 1 is a very good unit. They also have a rebate available now that allows you to get about $145.00 if free accessories with purchase. Here is what it looks like. Please reach out to me if you need any help with the selection or the features. I would be more than happy to assist you in any way possible.

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Hows a 10 year battery sound? Wanna know just ask me!
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Brian correct me if I am wrong I believe the OP asked for an auto releasing unit. I perceive that as a Class / Cat 1 unit. I am not aware of Ocean Signal offering that as of now for the US. If I am not correct please let me know as I am here to learn. I am very familiar with the gold standard in the industry as we have been dealing with ACR since 1996.
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Nope, not Ocean Signal, although if he were going cat 2 its one to look at.
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Originally Posted by BoemarineBrian View Post
Hows a 10 year battery sound? Wanna know just ask me!
Okay, I'll ask. I'm looking for a cat 2, if there is one with a 10 year battery that would be ideal.
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If you are looking at a CAT 2 I would be looking at an ACR. I will pay for the battery every five years. The one I listed above is a 10 year if that is a requirement.
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To clarify International Marine will pay for the new battery every 5 years?
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Lol no. I was saying to me it is worth the money in a piece of critical safety equipment to have it serviced to ensure proper operation at a five year service interval. My family is worth it to me.
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A Cat II EPIRB is what is normal for your usage. You want to be able to manually throw that thing overboard in case of an emergency instead of trusting it to float free once the boat sinks and not get caught up in any rigging. In a case of a boat fire you'd be screwed with a Cat I unless you could find somebody to climb on top of the burning boat and get the EPIRB from its housing. A Cat I is a great backup unit.

10 year battery life will be the norm for all brands in due time. Ocean Signal is just the first to market with it. The Ocean Signal unit is the latest and greatest in this space.
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What's the main difference between the ACR-2842 and 2846?
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Originally Posted by Tampacruiser View Post
What's the main difference between the ACR-2842 and 2846?
The 2846 has a small LCD display on it to show your position and battery status. It also has a NMEA0183 optical interface so it can attach to your boat's gps. This way it will immediately have your boat's last known position when it deploys. These units do have very fast acquiring gps sensors on them so this feature is not as important as it used to be.
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Thanks yachtjim! Even after reading their respective descriptions numerous times I was still confused.
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I have to respectfully disagree with Jim on this one. I would rather have a Cat 1 mounted on the boat so it the boat takes on water I don't have to do anything to activate the EPIRB.

I would also like to say I feel it is very important to have a ditch bag well equipped as well. This bag can have a locator device that serve as a primary or secondary method of alerting rescue agencies. This bag (ACR or others) should be put in a location that is redily accessible. Keep in mind in the event of a boat fire as Jim has described may or may not allow you to get to the ditch bag / EPIRB based on the fire location and conditions on the vessel. Just two points of view.

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PS Brian can you provide info on the 10-Year Cat 1 that you described above. As mentioned I and I am sure others would like to learn about any new products that we may have missed.
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Take this into account guys. The majority by a large number, of situations that find people getting into rafts and recovered safely or even parishing, the boat is found FLOATING! A huge example of this was the Fastnet race.
Never ever leave the boat till you have to step up to get into the water.
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineMike View Post
I would rather have a Cat 1 mounted on the boat so it the boat takes on water I don't have to do anything to activate the EPIRB.
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How do you know your EPIRB will activate at all even though the boat takes on water?
According to manual the cat 1 EPIRB has to be deep under water to activate. What if the wreck floats 2' underwater and you die because as you say "you don't have to do anything" and gamble it just works?

I would love to see some kind of statistics showing the number of Cat 1 Epirbs deployed manually vs automatically and what kind of conditions it worked well.
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here we go again, you 2 vendors going back and forth on who has a better product.
Both of you should be banned
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Rather than getting side tracked by the venders, lets look at what the needs of Ermoalfa are. I believe he has a Concept 32 FE, going further out into the Gulf of Mexico in fair weather. I believe that a class I is a bit overkill for this use, on this type size of boat…

I have personally avoided class i--and much of my experience is crossing oceans--way beyond where any CG help is available. I have also worried about a class I being tangled in the rig, or a fire--both examples I have been aware of in a distress where the EPRIB was not able to be deployed.

I carried two ERPIB--one with the life raft/boat. The second by the companion way to the cabin. It was always available, if necessary to abandon the boat--and the second one was with what I was going to be in, the the larger vessel sank. In smaller pilot house boats, I want it in my ditch bag, which will be right next to me in a CC, or next to the helm/or companionway in a pilothouse or flying bridge boat.

I would vote for a Class II for Ermoalfa use.
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Guys just a different point of view based on my experience. I have on my boat a Cat 1 EPIRB from ACR mounted to the boat. So if the boat was ever to take on water (like submerged) it would automatically activate. The good news is you can also use it the same exact way as a Cat 2 and manual activate it. In addition I have ditch bag that is within an easy reach in a compartment that I have descanted for safety gear. In this compartment I have life vests with strobes, a Cat 2 Epirb, and a a 6 person inflatable life raft.

To some this may be overkill, to me I feel it is well worth a few dollars as we very often do day trip to the Bahamas. I feel the money I spent on safety equipment is well worth it as many time I have family and guests that are on board and want to ensure that they have what is needed if it is ever required to be deployed.

tdk72, just sharing different views not looking for an argument at all.

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Originally Posted by tdk72 View Post
here we go again, you 2 vendors going back and forth on who has a better product.
Both of you should be banned
No argument , whats being discussed is the same manufacture just different classes and how they apply to uses. In order for the cat 1 to release the hydrostatic release needs to be signifigantly submerged.

What is important here is that information is being shared and exchanged. There is no need to make it any more than that.

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