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Old 02-22-2015, 06:45 PM
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I'm looking to upgrade my current Garmin, but have questions about transducers. My current Garmin setup includes radar and autopilot, so whatever I upgrade to has to be compatible with both. My current transducer is a 1kw Airmar B164. I'm interested in the new GPSMAP 7607xsv. Do I need to upgrade the transducer? The recommended transducer is 130-210khz. My current transducer is listed as 50/200khz, Does that mean that the recommended transducer does a range between 130 and 210khz and my current does either 50 or 200?
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The new Garmin is a CHIRP sonar. It can use your existing transducer without problems. It can also use new CHIRP transducers which do pings in a frequency sweep, rather than a single frequency like your old sonar and transducer. When you use the B164 with the new Garmin, it will work as a single frequency sonar (200khz or 50khz) and it will probably do it much better than your old Garmin.
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Awesome to know I can upgrade the unit now without having to upgrade the transducer. Would I need to upgrade the transducer to use the down vu and side vu features?
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Awesome to know I can upgrade the unit now without having to upgrade the transducer. Would I need to upgrade the transducer to use the down vu and side vu features?
You would have to add a second transducer for the Downs / Side features or replace with an all in one.
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Look at the GT50 or GT51 to add side vu. It will also give you a really nice CHIRP transducer, then you might never need to replace your B164. Just hook it up, and under certain circumstances you might want to use it (though the CHIRP element in the GT side vu transducer will probably be all you ever want to use).

If you are mostly deeper than 100', look at the 51, but if you are more frequently shallower, look at the 50.
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Thanks a ton everyone. I'll probably add the transom GT 50, and leave the other hooked up too. Now just waiting for the GPSMAP 7607sv to be released!
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Ktomlinson, IMHO, if you upgrade consider not going touch screen, rather buttons instead. My experience comes from 150% active use and being commercial. I'll never make that mistake again. Touch screen S#%KS
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The Garmin840xs would be a great solution to not wanting touch screen.
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What do you not like about touchscreen? I have an echomap 70dv on a boat that I am selling, and really liked having the multi touch screen. The GPSMAP 740s that is on my Parker is touchscreen too, but not multi touch. The reasons I want to upgrade are to get better auto guidance calculating, multitouch, and to get a faster machine.
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I own a 740S also. From my personal experience, if you work with your GPS as I do 100% all over it. An unfortunately My hands are dirty or I have gloves on, pretty soon my screen looks like the mess I'm dealing with. So now I have to be wiping my screen or hosing it down. or cleaning my hands. Removing gloves. And then all this is happening on the screen I'm trying to view at the same time. It just not practical.
Its like trying to work on your windshield with constant crap on your hands and still trying to see through it all at the same time.
In my opinion touch screen is great for individuals who set it and forget it. Not for a constant battle of use.
Also as BOE mentioned above the 840 looks to be a great substitute.
Now I just have to go punch in the nose the person who talked me into flush mounting, but thats another story.

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Everyone has their own preferences. If you already use and like touch screen, then stick with it. I prefer touch screen as well. The 7607XSV is a much better machine than the 840XS.
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https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/cata...Product=138028

There close, but I still will not go back to touch screen.
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Commercial fishermen often prefer dedicated standalone units dedicated to one task. I prefer that myself and am keeping my 3210 for plotter function only. That said I still ordered a 7610xsv for the additional features and to supplement my current array. I will try the new unit as a plotter just to see how it goes. If it works out I will replace my 3210 next year.

Touch screens have come a long way and are not subject to the distortion from touching like the non-touch screens. An Ipad is a good example. I could eat a greasy cheese burger off my Ipad and still see it just fine. We're just going to have to see how it works out.
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Commercial fishermen often prefer dedicated standalone units dedicated to one task. I prefer that myself and am keeping my 3210 for plotter function only. That said I still ordered a 7610xsv for the additional features and to supplement my current array. I will try the new unit as a plotter just to see how it goes. If it works out I will replace my 3210 next year.

Touch screens have come a long way and are not subject to the distortion from touching like the non-touch screens. An Ipad is a good example. I could eat a greasy cheese burger off my Ipad and still see it just fine. We're just going to have to see how it works out.
Kmoose your right I have always preferred standalone units. As I also have a Furuno Depth finder, stand alone. When it came to electronics, I have always tried to maintain things on there own, for the purpose that unit functions without interfering with another. And also in the event of break down I can trace the issues quickly. There no guessing with over laying machines.
My main issue with touch screens is I don't like to compromise what I trying to look at by making it worse putting my hands and gloves all over it.
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I understand not wanting to remove gloves and getting the screen nasty, sounds like good reasons to stick with buttons.

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