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Old 02-20-2015, 01:55 PM
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I have bought a ss264 w airmar transducer, do all of these transducer have short pig tail cable with 9 pin male plug, I am trying to find a extension lead to suit that plug and for the life of me cannot find a thing . Will be hooked up to my furuno 295 so only needs the one plug. Can anyone help ?
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Yes, Ill get that info for you asap!
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In case you have to get another transducer du to the diplexer then a CHIRP transducer is probably a better option.

B175H-W for 200kHz, B175L for 50kHz.
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Originally Posted by masonp View Post
I have bought a ss264 w airmar transducer, do all of these transducer have short pig tail cable with 9 pin male plug, I am trying to find a extension lead to suit that plug and for the life of me cannot find a thing . Will be hooked up to my furuno 295 so only needs the one plug. Can anyone help ?
You don't need a plug at all, just cut off the plug and strip the wires back for use in the waygo connector on the back of the unit. Assume that is a single frequency 200Hz so no issue as to diplexing. If you have the paired 50Hz low frequency element (usually these are sold in a pair), run that cable to the low frequency port the same way.

I would say based on experience in my old boat that the SS264W 200Hz is a pretty poor performing transducer notwithstanding the high price. It was the first of the "wide" beam high frequency transducers that Airmar produced. If you have the chance to return or exchange it, I would go for a B175H-W if you want wide beam.
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I already got the 50bl-12r, for deep water use , the ss264w was for my inshore work, does the b175 have the 25 degree beam ?
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B175 is available in several variants, but B175H-W has a 25 degrees cone. It can be used at any frequency from 150-250kHz, but I'm not sure how much of this band which is supported by FCV-295. B175H-W has close to constant 25 degrees cone angle for the complete supported frequency band. It has a Q-factor of 2 which will give excellent resolution due to minimal ringing. The transducer has also very good sensitivity. B175H-W is the most impressive transducer I've ever used, and I've tried a lot

I'm usually operating B175H-W in CHIRP mode, but here is an example of how it looks in 200 kHz fixed frequency mode.

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What sort of depth performance do you get out of the b175 w ?
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For me it works well at 400m, but I use this boat most in a cold clear deep lake. According to what I've heard it should show targets down to 600' in saltwater.
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I am chasing southern bluefin tuna and marlin, the 50 is for deep dropping for swords
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Originally Posted by abbor View Post
For me it works well at 400m, but I use this boat most in a cold clear deep lake. According to what I've heard it should show targets down to 600' in saltwater.
There you have it, great advice. Abbor whats the performance like when not in Chirp?
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As you can see on the screen shot I posted above it has excellent target separation also at 200kHz. SonarHub works exceptionally well in CHIRP mode with this transducer so I have limited fixed frequency experience with B175H-W.
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What type of sounder were you using with the ss264?
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Originally Posted by masonp View Post
What type of sounder were you using with the ss264?
It was a Furuno DFF1 black box on a NavNet 3D system. The 200Hz side of your FCV295 is pretty similar to the 200Hz circuitry of the DFF1. The main difference between them is in the lower frequency tunable outputs and ability to use 2kW and 3kW transmission power for deep water on the FCV295.

I think the shallow water 200Hz performance you would see would be pretty similar to what I saw with the DFF1 driving the SS264W. The B175H-W has a much lower "Q" factor than the SS264, which is an indicator of performance capability. That's why the various comments have steered you in that direction if your primary objective is getting a wide beam for use in water of 300 feet or less.
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What would be the maximum depth of both the 264 and 175, which way would you go
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Originally Posted by masonp View Post
What would be the maximum depth of both the 264 and 175, which way would you go
Of course a lot depends upon other factors, but I would expect that you could read bottom okay up to 450-600 feet with the B175H-W, somewhat less with the SS264W. In my old boat with the SS264W, I would lose bottom in high frequency around 350 feet usually.

But the real question is what do you want to achieve for the type of fishing you do? If you want to see bait and pelagic fish in the water column, the wide beam B175H-W transducer would be best. If you are trying to bottom fish and want the more detailed picture of structure and fish on the bottom you can get with 200Hz, then you would be able to operate in greater depth and also see more detail with the narrow beam version, the regular B175H.
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Na looking for bait and pelagics, I think I will go the 175, bit more money but better result I think
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Originally Posted by masonp View Post
Na looking for bait and pelagics, I think I will go the 175, bit more money but better result I think
Just take care when you order it because there are several versions of the B175. First there is the variation in tilt angle -- 0, 12, and 20 degrees for different amounts of deadrise compensation.

Then there is frequency -- low, medium, and high.

Finally there are two versions of high frequency -- regular and wide beam.

So what you want is a B175H-W at the necessary tilt angle for your hull, "H-W" being the high frequency wide beam version.
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Do they make the 175 in stainless ?
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Originally Posted by masonp View Post
Do they make the 175 in stainless ?
The SS175C-HW in 8 pin is now available.
And also the SS175C H, M and L.
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Mason the 175 comes as a B175(bronze) or a ss175(stainless)
Abbor I have seen many sounder shots in my time but nothing near as good as the one you posted. The target separation and definition is insane!!! Is that SS175 pictured above running on the Simrad?
I notice that the picture was taken in quite shallow water.
I don't have chirp as yet so cannot say much from experience. However the manager for Airmar Germany has told me once before that although the results with chirp on Simrad and Garmin units are excellent he indicated that they don't work no where near as good in deeper water say from 120 metres and above. He emphasised that it is still early days yet and things will improve but that is where it is at the moment. Are you able to say from your experience whether that is correct.
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