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Old 02-19-2015, 07:43 AM
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Default Garmin 8000 vs. new 7000 Units - what's the difference?

In the simplest terms possible can someone explain the main differences between the 8212 and 7612?

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It looks like 7600 series is a lighter version of the 8000 series
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I guess more specifically I'm looking at what one has that the other doesn't...i.e. for the ~$1,000 difference what are you not getting with the 7000
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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
I guess more specifically I'm looking at what one has that the other doesn't...i.e. for the ~$1,000 difference what are you not getting with the 7000
The 7000 XSV includes an internal sonar. The 8000 does not. I think for 1-2 displays it is a no brainer for the 7000 series. I think you have to go into big helm setups to get advantages with the 8000 series.
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Simplest form:
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/cata...Product=110004
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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
In the simplest terms possible can someone explain the main differences between the 8212 and 7612?

Much appreciated.
One main difference is the 7612xsv is a complete self contained unit ..and the 8212 requires additional black boxes for sonar capabilty.


The 8212 a high quality Multifunction display...it has built in Charts and GPS.
It does not have any built in sonar capability...it requires black boxes like the GSD-26 for CHIRP sonar and the GCV-10 for Side and Down Vu.


The 7612xsv also has built in charts and GPS but..
It also has a built in Dual Band CHIRP sonar and built in Side and Down Vu....no black boxes required.
The 7612xsv and 7612 chart can still use the GSD-26 if required for the larger transducers.

Both are touch screen,fully networkable and both share many other features.

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Thanks Gil....I guess my confusion is: Who would buy a 8000 series with the 7000 now available at $1,000 less, plus you have to buy additional hardware with the 8000?
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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
Thanks Gil....I guess my confusion is: Who would buy a 8000 series with the 7000 now available at $1,000 less, plus you have to buy additional hardware with the 8000?
Yes....I think you hit the nail on the head

I think the 7612xsv.. is the better value for most fishing and boating conditions vs the 8212.
And as you mentioned ..the additional hardware is need..so a total of $3000 more for the 8212 is possible.

I think the xsv series is going to cause many to take a good look at what Garmin is now doing.
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So ultimately, as Garmin is still selling both units, what are they selling in the 8000 that could be considered superior?
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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
Thanks Gil....I guess my confusion is: Who would buy a 8000 series with the 7000 now available at $1,000 less, plus you have to buy additional hardware with the 8000?
I think that market is for the mega yachts and cruisers that aren't so focused on fishing but more on networking a whole crazy amount of systems with these big custom helms.
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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
So ultimately, as Garmin is still selling both units, what are they selling in the 8000 that could be considered superior?
A warped outlook is that they just introduced it and can't kill it off within 1 year of intro.

Ahh, but seriously, the black box sounders (gsd) are more powerful than the built in sonar. If you want/need a 2kw ducer you have to get a gsd sonar. Also they glass helm displays are only in the 8000 series. The xsv systems also don't fully network like the 8xxx and older 4/5/6/72xx machines.

So if you have no concern for money, and a huge helm to fill, the 8000 will give you more options for large displays, multiple sonar/radar units, and full networking.
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Thanks that all makes sense.
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post

The xsv systems also don't fully network like the 8xxx and older 4/5/6/72xx machines.

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Actually...The xsv units do have the same full networking capabilty as the 8000 series....and a bit more than the 4/5/6/72.

The 4/5/6/72 do not have the built in wifi.. xsv has built in wifi.

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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
So ultimately, as Garmin is still selling both units, what are they selling in the 8000 that could be considered superior?
As I see it the 8000 has smart mode to set up helm presets, and twice as many Marine network ports. The 8000 also needs the Garmin Card Reader. So really now for large multi helm vessels with more than 2 displays.

The 7600 has better resolution with WXGA rather than XGA with 8000, built in Wifi, and all the sonar capabilities and data card slots built in.

So for most of us the 7600 is the way forward. I currently have an 8212 replacing one of my 5212's last year. So now I will just add a 7612xsv to replace the second 5212.

Not sure of the processor and memory difference between the two MFD's.

I do like the card reader being out of the way with the 8000, but not for the price difference. The 8212 has been a tremendous improvement over my 5212.

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Originally Posted by mahimahi99 View Post
I think that market is for the mega yachts and cruisers that aren't so focused on fishing but more on networking a whole crazy amount of systems with these big custom helms.
Yes..that is the direction the 8000 series will probably take.
And they can use the 19" screen..plus world wide mapping.
Looking at the 19" screen is an eyeopener....my first TV was not that big.

But for the recreational fisherman....few have gone the way of the 8000 units.
Looks like the 76XX series may have a wider selection that fills the range of fishing conditions and boating paramaters for the recreational user.

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Yes 19" display is huge, but the 7600 has DVI output, so you could add any screen size you wanted I assume for much less. Just no touch control unless Apple makes a huge Ipad LOL

The 19" display only works with the 8500 black box I believe? I assume the 19" display would work with the 7600 without touch control as a standard DVI connection? Use IPhone for control?



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Is the 7600 not touch controlled?
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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
Is the 7600 not touch controlled?
The 7600 is, but any screen connected to the DVI output is not. The 19" connected to Garmin 8500 is touch screen.
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Weight of 8212 is heavier because of metal housing, heatsinks. 7612 is some type of plastic case. I guess because of internal gps?
The screens are aligned slightly different 8212 taller,7612 wider. The taller screen gives you more forward range on radar and chart.
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Here is a picture of the Garmin 8500 installed. Notice no yamaha gauges, no key switch, no switch panel. Wanted to have a very clean dash. The key switch was moved to the overhead electronics box and we installed C Zone to control all the switching via the Garmin.

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