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Old 02-18-2015, 07:07 PM
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Default Flir vs. Iris?

I'm looking to purchase one of these units. I like all the extras that the Iris has over the base FLIR. I really don't need it to tilt and pan as I'm only looking to avoid objects that radar don't pick up. Lobster pots etc... But the extra features are nice at no extra cost.

My reason for starting this post that I haven't seen the Iris in person, Only u tube videos and videos from Iris. I've contacted Iris and spoke with the same person numerous times and asked where I could see one. She said that no one stocks one as they sell as fast as they come in. I called the distributer they sell to and asked him where I could see the unit. He said, Look at U tube videos.

I'm at a loss here, Do I spend 4,500.00 and take a chance that Iris is a good product and works as seen on Iris's videos or do I go with the stationary FLIR which is well known and sold by dealers everywhere.

Has anyone used, seen or does anyone have the Iris Night runner?

Thanks, Bob
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I saw iris at Fort Lauderdale boat show in October and was impressed, but no actual use by me. Seems like a good value versus flir, but maybe you get what you pay for?
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Originally Posted by DaddyMenace View Post
I saw iris at Fort Lauderdale boat show in October and was impressed, but no actual use by me. Seems like a good value versus flir, but maybe you get what you pay for?
I'm thinking the same thing. About getting what you pay for. I don't mind spending the money (4,500.00) That's pretty much my limit as it's going on a 23' boat. I know it's hard to put a price on safety but I'm only running to the Race or Plum Gut. All within sight of land.

My biggest reason for this is because last year I was coming back from a bass trip and in my harbor at no wake speed, I normally turn radar off at this point as there's so much return. Well, luckily it was on. I saw a return only once and almost disregarded it. then one or two sweeps went by and nothing was in front of me. I stopped the boat, turned on the spot light and saw a drunk guy on a kayak or canoe 30' in front of me. I would have ran right over him or at least knocked him in the water.

I tried talking with him and he was so drunk it was useless. Now because of his stupidity I would have been in a mess had I hit him. And had to live with it as well.

So, I'm not getting much feedback on the IRIS unit and thinking the FLIR might be worth looking into. I really need to see what's in front of me and to avoid it. Any thoughts on this??
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I've seen the Iris in person and it works every bit as good as the FLIR (and I sell FLIR). Iris makes Garmin and Simrad's cameras, since Raymarine owns FLIR. I guess Garmin and Simrad(Navico) wanted another company so it must be good if Garmin and Simrad is willing to put their name on it. But anyways it is definitely a great camera for the price. In fact, you can get the IRIS models, w/o the Garmin and Simrad names, even a little bit less and they will connect to your unit without any issues.
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Originally Posted by mahimahi99 View Post
I've seen the Iris in person and it works every bit as good as the FLIR (and I sell FLIR). Iris makes Garmin and Simrad's cameras, since Raymarine owns FLIR. I guess Garmin and Simrad(Navico) wanted another company so it must be good if Garmin and Simrad is willing to put their name on it. But anyways it is definitely a great camera for the price. In fact, you can get the IRIS models, w/o the Garmin and Simrad names, even a little bit less and they will connect to your unit without any issues.
Just got off the phone with Garmin. They never marketed a thermal camera. They had plans to in 2012 but ended up refunding all deposits and scratched the project. I was told to check out Axis.
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Originally Posted by Bob Coco View Post
Just got off the phone with Garmin. They never marketed a thermal camera. They had plans to in 2012 but ended up refunding all deposits and scratched the project. I was told to check out Axis.
Guess I wasn't sure which model you were looking for but IRIS makes the GC10 camera for Garmin. My comment was more to substantiate the quality of IRIS as a whole, sorry for the confusion.
Here's the Garmin camera I was referring to:
https://buy.garmin.com/en-ZA/ZA/on-t...prod37695.html
IRIS
http://www.boat-cameras.com/product....odID=7&CatID=1

Simrad
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/simrad...mera--14077937
IRIS model
http://www.boat-cameras.com/product....dID=43&CatID=1

I'm guessing you've already seen this thread?
http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...5-install.html
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Originally Posted by mahimahi99 View Post
Guess I wasn't sure which model you were looking for but IRIS makes the GC10 camera for Garmin. My comment was more to substantiate the quality of IRIS as a whole, sorry for the confusion.
Here's the Garmin camera I was referring to:
https://buy.garmin.com/en-ZA/ZA/on-t...prod37695.html
IRIS
http://www.boat-cameras.com/product....odID=7&CatID=1

Simrad
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/simrad...mera--14077937
IRIS model
http://www.boat-cameras.com/product....dID=43&CatID=1

I'm guessing you've already seen this thread?
http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...5-install.html
Hi Mahi,
Yes I did see that video. and it is impressive but it's also still. I just want to see a little more. I appreciate any input. I looked at the Axis cameras and now I'm totally confused. They look like security cameras on a building as they really are. Thay are able to record and have a motion detector built in. I'm so confused now. LOL Anyone else want to chime in? Thanks, Bob
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We have one of the very first night runner 295s in the country. We first had it on our 29 Regulator and now we have it on our new 34 Regulator. If you search here you will see a few of our reviews and if you look at our Facebook Page or our website you can see videos of the camera there. In the spring it will be one year old. The support from IRIS has been good. I have to admit that to get the FLIR version of the same camera you are paying x3 as much and you will likely get integrated controls and backing from a company that sets the industries standards. There were many people that thought we should just light our money on fire as the camera was a waste. A few of these people had to eat some crow and they own a large NJ based installation and sales company.

On our new regulator we have all Raymarine GS displays. If FLIR would like to give us a camera I would be more than happy to use it and do a side by side comparison, on here as well as our Facebook page and website.

The only downside to the IRIS camera is that the controller is rather large. And that it is not an IP camera. I wish that it was ONVIV complaint then that would open a lot of doors for control.

Sag Harbor is not that far from us one the snow melts you are more than welcome to come and take a ride! I have said it before that as long as what is in your path is in the line of sight I have no doubt that the camera will see it. At 30 knots, the camera will identify a floating lobster trap buoy (not a high fliers type the small float) at a distance of close to 300 yards. Plenty of time to deviate course.
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I personally would go with he FLIR units. There are some stationary that are not very pricey (less than 3K) all the way up to the new M400 at almost 30K. I have a flir on my boat and would never own another boat of that size without it. We use it very regularly and feel it is well worth the investment. The FLIR is the standard and have interfaced with almost all the MFD manufacturers for embedded MFD control.
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I too have a FLIR. I regularly fish offshore at night and love it. Top quality.
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Picture of my unit so you can see it in action.



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Thanks, I've decided to go with FLIR.

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