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Old 10-16-2014, 09:01 AM
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Default side-by side garmin/simrad unit and screen sizes

I made the following images on a flight last night with no wifi, based on specs I had downloaded (note, simrad does not provide length x width measurements for their screens, so simrad screen sizes were calculated using published diagonal measurement, aspect ratio, and pixel count). Garmin screen sizes are based on their published specs. Pricing may not be the cheapest but it is close... probably better deals on Simrad because that's where I'm leaning and what I've had priced out.

I'm in the process of deciding what the best bang for my buck solution is... for example in my opinion 2 NSS7 Evo 2 is a far better deal than a single NSS9 Evo2 with the same resolution (800x480 pixels) for pretty much the same price.

Anyway, I thought this might be helpful to some of you as you contemplate an electronics purchase. Unit dimensions and screen dimensions are drawn to scale, within each picture and between all the pictures. The size of the slide in PowerPoint was 37 x 20.5 inches.

I'm also uploading a couple dash ideas for your feedback.








Ameracat Dash 1


Ameracat Dash 2

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cool - nicely done!

just a couple of usability questions - where is your steering wheel? Middle, Right or Left? And are you right or left handed?
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Originally Posted by kaz911 View Post
cool - nicely done!

just a couple of usability questions - where is your steering wheel? Middle, Right or Left? And are you right or left handed?
Thanks for the utilitarian approach. Right handed. Steering wheel would aligned with the bigger screen which will usually be map + radar overlay. If my bench can accommodate 3 people, I'll probably go center steering... if 2 people I'll go port side.

I'm also contemplating just going with 4+ NSS7 Evo2 units. I have a solo NSS8 on my current boat and regularly run it in split screen, so full NSS7 screens probably won't feel too cramped. IMHO it is the overall best bang for your buck unit out there. Of course, by the time I order the boat, I'm sure everyone will have brought a new unit with new choices to market.
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Originally Posted by JoshKaptur View Post

I'm in the process of deciding what the best bang for my buck solution is... for example in my opinion 2 NSS7 Evo 2 is a far better deal than a single NSS9 Evo2 with the same resolution (800x480 pixels).

A very positive aspect of running 2 separate evo2 units is that now one can use a dual band CHIRP transducer.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/semperfi...onar-unit.html

Example:
With the B265C-LH the High band can be seen on one unit and the Low band can be seen on the other.

When running a single unit ..only a single band can be utilized.
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Here's one more side-by side that might be helpful for those of you interested in larger screens (all dimensions to scale with original drawings).

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Why didn't 2x NSS12 Evo2 make one of your layouts?
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
A very positive aspect of running 2 separate evo2 units is that now one can use a dual band CHIRP transducer.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/semperfi...onar-unit.html

Example:
With the B265C-LH the High band can be seen on one unit and the Low band can be seen on the other.

When running a single unit ..only a single band can be utilized.

Thanks. This is a cat hull, and I was planning to use a 175H and 175L when fishing offshore, and mostly down/side scans when inshore. That's the intention of my two smaller units, with the larger screen being mostly for navigation. What would drive your decision between a pair of 175s vs. something like the B265C-LH?
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Originally Posted by stiletto View Post
Why didn't 2x BSS12 Evo2 make one of your layouts?
$1100 price difference. One of those NSS12's would almost always be split into 2 or 3 or 4 screens, and I think I'd rather have 2 NSS7s for versatility/redundancy. As I said, I'm actually tempted to skip the NSS12 altogether and just put a mess of NSS7's on my dash.

Anyway, that was the conclusion based on my side-by-side comparison from a bang-for-the-buck perspective.
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Originally Posted by JoshKaptur View Post
Thanks. This is a cat hull, and I was planning to use a 175H and 175L when fishing offshore, and mostly down/side scans when inshore. That's the intention of my two smaller units, with the larger screen being mostly for navigation. What would drive your decision between a pair of 175s vs. something like the B265C-LH?
I was just using the B265C-LH as an example.....

But to answer your question.

If the B265 or PM 265 is mountable on ones boat the cost factor of the unit is less.
Also..if the boat is larger than 30' then the fairing mounted B265 will have some advantage going deeper as it can be running in cleaner water..past the boundary layer etc.

The pair or PM mount has the advantage of being used on trailed boats or on many cat hulls that cannot use a larger fairing.

Both give many options etc.
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Thanks. 31 foot trailered cat. When the time comes, I'll make sure to reach out to you for a quote.
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Just me but nss7 evo is small. 6.1x3.4..tiny.I hope you have good eye sight.We run a 33 World cat TE.When you are sitting back in the seat your going to have a hard time with a 7" screen.Your going to be leaning forward to see them.Capt.Mike
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Just me but nss7 evo is small. 6.1x3.4..tiny.I hope you have good eye sight.We run a 33 World cat TE.When you are sitting back in the seat your going to have a hard time with a 7" screen.Your going to be leaning forward to see them.Capt.Mike
You hit the nail on the head....a 7" screen is young mans unit...

All us older ones with failing eyesight need all the help we can get.
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You hit the nail on the head....a 7" screen is young mans unit...

All us older ones with failing eyesight need all the help we can get.
^^^this^^^
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
A very positive aspect of running 2 separate evo2 units is that now one can use a dual band CHIRP transducer.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/semperfi...onar-unit.html

Example:
With the B265C-LH the High band can be seen on one unit and the Low band can be seen on the other.

When running a single unit ..only a single band can be utilized.
is this also true with the NSO twin 16 setup? I am putting this and a 9 inch NSS 9 on my rig.
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To answer your question, If you go center steering Dash one and if you port steering Dash 2.

Now a question for you, Have you evaluated the Lowrance HDS X Gen 2 Touch units? I _think_ they compare similarly to the Nss EVO units you are looking at with an even larger value proposition. The second question is if you are going with a black box sonar anyway, maybe you shoud get the "M" versions sans sonar for an even further savings.

Question for all, but how do the Lowrance gen2 touch compare against the Simrad EVO series? Are there any "killer apps" on the EVOs that make them worth the extra bucks?
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NSS Evo2 has a faster processor system, built in CHIRP sounder, dual range and 48rpm support with 4G radar, integration with Simrad autopilots, ForwardScan support and a better user interface since it has a rotary knob and exit button in addition to what HDS Touch has.

HDS Touch has a couple of additional fishfinder settings, integration with Motorguide Xi5 trolling motor and integration with the coming Lowrance low cost autopilot for smaller boats.

I have both models and also first generation NSS. I prefer first generation NSS over HDS Touch, but NSS Evo2 is my favourite.
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Originally Posted by abbor View Post
NSS Evo2 has a faster processor system, built in CHIRP sounder, dual range and 48rpm support with 4G radar, integration with Simrad autopilots, ForwardScan support and a better user interface since it has a rotary knob and exit button in addition to what HDS Touch has.

HDS Touch has a couple of additional fishfinder settings, integration with Motorguide Xi5 trolling motor and integration with the coming Lowrance low cost autopilot for smaller boats.

I have both models and also first generation NSS. I prefer first generation NSS over HDS Touch, but NSS Evo2 is my favourite.
I think he was referring to the Lowrance that is going to be announced at the Ft. Lauderdale boat show, the Gen3. HDS Touch Gen2 == HDS Gen 3
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The full name of the current touch model is HDS Gen2 Touch.

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