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Old 10-05-2014, 08:02 PM
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Hello everyone. First of all I want to apologize for not letting those of you who were either giving advice on my sunken boat this spring that I didn't return a message to that I did get the boat back up. Also the motor is running that was under water for a week.

As of you that followed me I am a commercial fisherman in KY. Before the sport fishermen start hating on me I have been pulling 100,000lbs of Asian carp a month of of Kentucky Lake and Lake Barkley. I am your friend. Not your enemy.

Not on to the fish finder issue. I haven't used one since the boat went under and took my Lowrance that I loved when I had it set right.

In the winter I fish for spoonbill. I hate side scan imaging. I have looked at Lowrance and a Dragonfly. I know NOTHING about CHIRP. I have always got on forums trying to find out how to set my lowrance and turning off surface clarity, noise rejection, etc. and never really knew what I was doing. I could find spoonbill, but not necessarily correctly, when it came to my settings.

To better understand what I am looking for I of course want that "TV view" that everyone else wants but the bottom isn't just what I use a fish finder for.

If I see a spoonbill 20 foot deep in 40 feet of water I want to be able to find it. I want to know it is a spoonbill, without a doubt, and know how to set the machine.

So what should I buy and how hard will that unit be to set?



I am ordering a 38 foot aluminum boat to focus on Asian Carp very soon. In order to do that I have to do well fishing for spoonbill. I need to drift up one large spoonbill a day for a few months in order to get the boat built. Caviar fishing will be a thing of the past soon but it is what will allow me to catch over 2 million lbs a year of asian carp. Which is only a gross of 200k, but it keeps the lakes clean and keeps my family from starving.


Help me out here guys. I want to be able to find a fish, catch it, and that's it. I want to know what the bottom looks like, but need great equipment to actually see the fish.

Thank you for your time and I greatly appreciate your advice.
Old 10-05-2014, 08:17 PM
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Beside Lowrance...You might want to also start your search off looking into the Sirmad evo2 series.
You want good bottom detail... the evo2 has down scan built in.
And the evo2 has a very good CHIRP sonar....match it with a TM150M transom mount transducer.
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Thank you. I am going to google it now.
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What does one do with 100,000 pounds of Asian carp?

With its abundance and nuisance factor, it's still a good protein source. What is the market for it and how is it used? Even if just used as fertilizer or pet food, there should be enough incentive to rid our waters of them.

I've seen plenty of videos where you don't even catch them, they just hop into the boat.

Also heard that they won't take bait or lure, and have to be snagged.
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Would appreciate an update. "Asian Carp" can actually refer to about 4 different species...non desirable and all invasive. If you're taking 100K pounds out per month, you're my hero. Most are filter-feeders for plankton, and are not interested in other fish, baits, or lures, depending on the exact species, which varies regionally in the US.

In some areas, people in open boats practically need helmets...the Ohio River is notorious, as seen in this photo:

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I have been out fishing. There are several markets for asian carp. The jumping silvers is what we normally catch. The big heads or blacks aren't caught as often in the lake. I spoonbill fish in the winter on the ohio river but we also fish just for the silvers in the lakes. I normally catch 5,000 lbs a night. The biggest guy has a 38 ft boat and averages 18,000 lbs a night which seems like a lot but we tear up a lot of equipment and only get .10 a lb. Some meat goes to Israel. Jewish holidays actually shut down sales at times. There are also bone mills paying .10 a lb. My market actually filets them and sends them to New York. I assume 95% goes overseas. The same fish doesn't even jump in the nasty water over in asia
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You also can not fish every night. Your body will literally not hold up
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If the govt. got serious, they would institute a bounty incentive, could be as simple as subsidizing the dock price. Got to be cheaper than having the Corps of Engineers electrocute them.

At 20 cents/pound, twice as many would be caught.

I read that Fancy Feast brand cat food "whitefish" variety is asian carp, probably other brands, too, but that's a small market, as is Jewish gefilte fish. My research shows that most go to China, where they are cooked with lots of spices to disguise the flavor...also considered an aphrodisiac in many asian countries...cheap Viagra.

The jumpers are scary, and the bigger ones actually knock boaters into the water...definitely want your ignition tether attached.

They could also open a shotgun season for them, too, like Vermont has for certain species, but 10 cents a pound would barely even cover ammo costs. Some of the highest power airguns would easily kill one, though, for a penny or so per shot.

I understand most varieties only filter-feed and won't take a hook, except through their sides.

I don't think they will ever become a problem where waters are heavily populated with zebra mussels, as they leave little plankton left for the carp to survive on.

More work needs to be done promoting markets for them to get the dock prices up. Like Maine lobster now, such an over-abundance that the dock prices hardly cover diesel costs...how times have changed. That resulted primarily from the depletion of cod, the lobster's main predator, from over-fishing and under-regulation. Despite selling for 10% of their peak dock price, a restaurant lobster dinner hasn't gotten any cheaper.

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