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Old 10-01-2014, 08:15 AM
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Default All new Furuno on a new WC 270 TE.

I'm entertaining thoughts of purchasing a 270 TE that has never been rigged out and want all Furuno. I've been looking at the Navnet 3D MFDs and chirp stuff but am used to the older 1834C and traditional sonar. I'm really starting to lean towards the older technology. It's been working great for 10+ years. My question is what ducer to use with the older stuff. My last setup had the M260 ducer but I believe there are better choices available these days.
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The informed sonar guys on this Forum will be asking you what your intended transducer application will be: what depths you're fishing etc.

The M260 is a wonderful unit---hard to beat that 50/200 combo before you get into the newer CHIRP transducers.

I had an M260 for about 5 years. Next step was to get a pair of through-hull SS264W's, both the 50 and the 200. For me that was a step up from the M260 because I fish more in shallower mid water areas -- the narrower beam of the M260 would have better served someone with deep water applications. Having a wide beam 1Kw is a really nice fishing tool!

From the SS264, I went full CHIRP

Nothing wrong with the older Furuno technology, no doubt-- it just keeps trucking...

But I can say that if you spend any time at all demo-ing the new TzT series, you'll quickly find that it blows the doors off the 1834C--- for starters, planning long intricate routes used to be a fairly time consuming ordeal (Navnet 3 D included)---the TzT turns that into the snap of a finger. It's ridiculously easy. Just about all the menu functions are easier---lickety split.

If you can absorb the money sting, go for the new stuff. And you'll only have to do it one time because it's Furuno.

And if you want to go CHIRP, you'll have the MFD to support the DFF1-UHD sonar module when you decide to step up
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Originally Posted by mstrelectricman View Post
I'm entertaining thoughts of purchasing a 270 TE that has never been rigged out and want all Furuno. I've been looking at the Navnet 3D MFDs and chirp stuff but am used to the older 1834C and traditional sonar. I'm really starting to lean towards the older technology. It's been working great for 10+ years. My question is what ducer to use with the older stuff. My last setup had the M260 ducer but I believe there are better choices available these days.
With Furuno nothing wrong with "older technology" if that is what you feel comfortable with... you can get the NavNet 3D with the DFF1 traditional sonar..a very good option.

With the DFF1 the transducer choices are basically the same as what you had available before.
Single element B60 600 watt for shallow water use.
3 element 1 kw B164 for shallow to mid water.
8 element units like the B260, M260 and SS264 pair ,,,these are for all around fishing and capable of deep use.

What are your fishing depths?
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Usually I'm fishing in depths of between 200-1000'. One quote I got was using the DFF3 with a Furuno "ultimate in-hull high performance 2 to 3 KW transducer with variable frequency from 25 KHZ to 45 KHZ and 130 KHZ to 210 KH-User defined. I'm not sure what the actual Furuno model # is but I'm wondering why he quoted this box and ducer to go with the 1834C/NT and it's companion MFD # GP 1920C/NT. I am under the impression that these older MFDs are not compatible with the DFF3 and this ducer. WTH?
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The guy who quoted you on compatibility quoted correctly

From the FurunoUSA website:

Furuno's DFF3 is a new network sounder featuring FDF (Furuno Digital Filter) signal processing technology. The DFF3 is designed for use with NavNet, NavNet VX2 and NavNet 3D. This new digital Network Sounder can turn any NavNet display into a powerful, dual-frequency digital fish finder. The compact network sounder unit connects directly to a NavNet display or an Ethernet hub with a single Ethernet cable. If it is connected to an Ethernet hub that has multiple displays attached, each of those displays will have access to the Network Sounder.

The sounder itself has a selectable 1, 2 or 3kW output power. You may choose any two operating frequencies from 28 to 200 kHz with FFS (Furuno Free Synthesis) technology. With the powerful DFF3, you can obtain detailed echoes of bottom structure and fish using range scales of up to 3,000 meters (nearly 10,000 feet). And because the Network Sounder is used on a NavNet display, you will also be able to use its Radar and Chart Plotter features depending on which unit you have.

The DFF3 is a direct replacement for the BBFF3 network sounder.
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Kewl! What do you think about the ducer he's recommending? It's like $3400 alone. Realize that I'm a firm believer in having the best ducer available, regardless of the cost. I NEVER buy cheap anything. It just ain't worth it!
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Originally Posted by mstrelectricman View Post
Usually I'm fishing in depths of between 200-1000'. One quote I got was using the DFF3 with a Furuno "ultimate in-hull high performance 2 to 3 KW transducer with variable frequency from 25 KHZ to 45 KHZ and 130 KHZ to 210 KH-User defined. I'm not sure what the actual Furuno model # is but I'm wondering why he quoted this box and ducer to go with the 1834C/NT and it's companion MFD # GP 1920C/NT. I am under the impression that these older MFDs are not compatible with the DFF3 and this ducer. WTH?
For 1000' and less ..
Just how often do you find actual targets at 1000'?
Generally.. a large percentage of fish are taken in 300' -400' or less.
So what area of depth do you fish the most ?

If you go with a DFF1 and a 8 element transducer such as the B260 it will more than capable for fishing from 200' to 1000'.
Another option is the FCV 295 as your sonar and using a 8 or 16 element either CHIRP or traditional transducer.

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