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Old 09-27-2014, 04:26 PM
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Default Insight Genesis vs ReefMaster

Anybody have opinions on which is better? I am leaning heavily towards ReefMaster, but wanted to hear your thoughts.
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That depends a lot on what you want to do, what electronics you want to use, and how technical you want to be. I use both.

IG is very easy to use, just follow a few basic instructions and you will have contours, bottom composition and vegetationbelts.

RM is more technical, but allows datainput from several sources (including most brands of marine electronics) and gives you a lot of options for how the finished map will look.
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Originally Posted by Team Colibri View Post
That depends a lot on what you want to do, what electronics you want to use, and how technical you want to be. I use both.

IG is very easy to use, just follow a few basic instructions and you will have contours, bottom composition and vegetationbelts.

RM is more technical, but allows datainput from several sources (including most brands of marine electronics) and gives you a lot of options for how the finished map will look.
I am using a Simrad NSS8.

My problems with IG are
1. a yearly fee (vs. ReefMaster one time)
2. IG won't use data collected at high speed. I routinely run 50 mile roundtrips. That's alot of information that it is thrown away. (ReefMaster will use this data).
3. The sonar playback pales in comparison to ReefMaster
4. I had a problem accessing my maps. Something about a server redirect loop. I emailed customer support per the instructions and have yet to hear back. I figured out the problem. IG had set 62 cookies on my computer!!!???!!! Cleared them and the problem went away, but the lack of response concerns me.
5. The one map that I had made in IG does not show bottom composition and vegetation.
6. After reading the instructions on both, I don't really find IG to be all that much easier to use, but rather very limiting. Somewhat like a sonar that only has a gain setting of auto and no other adjustments. I suppose if someone did not want to take the time to read the instructions, IG might be more intuitive, but I would think that any user creating maps for their chartplotter is probably comfortable learning to use software.

In short, IG sucks.

But, to give it a fair shot, I wanted to hear from other users. Is there anything that IG can do that ReefMaster can't?
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Originally Posted by tainted View Post

But, to give it a fair shot, I wanted to hear from other users. Is there anything that IG can do that ReefMaster can't?
IG can use data from Social Map, and make maps including vegetation belts (as long as you have keept to the speedlimits when logging.)
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Originally Posted by Team Colibri View Post
IG can use data from Social Map, and make maps including vegetation belts (as long as you have keept to the speedlimits when logging.)
I like the social map idea for navigational purposes, but that last thing I want to do is share my hard found fishing holes.

Vegetation belts on the other hand...that would be useful. How well does it work? Is it optimized for bass fisherman in 5 feet of water? Or will it also recognize offshore "live bottom" as "vegetation"?
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Originally Posted by tainted View Post
I like the social map idea for navigational purposes, but that last thing I want to do is share my hard found fishing holes.

Vegetation belts on the other hand...that would be useful. How well does it work? Is it optimized for bass fisherman in 5 feet of water? Or will it also recognize offshore "live bottom" as "vegetation"?
I don`t have any screenshots of the vegetationbelts, since I don`t use it much myself. But from the testing I did last spring it showed up pretty good in my home lake. (Freshwater)
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IG support for different countries is crap. So for me there is only Reefmaster
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Did anyone tried reefmaster bottom compisition in deep waters, offshore?
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Originally Posted by aggeloseco View Post
Did anyone tried reefmaster bottom compisition in deep waters, offshore?
Depends on your definition of deep.

I have tried it in 60 ft off west coast of FL. Works well. The second echo gives the most accurate interpretation from what I have seen.
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Originally Posted by aggeloseco View Post
Did anyone tried reefmaster bottom compisition in deep waters, offshore?
Not offshore, but in 300 meters of water in a lake.
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Originally Posted by Team Colibri View Post
Not offshore, but in 300 meters of water in a lake.
I am concider buying the pro version with the bottom composition but I wanted to make sure that it works fine in saltwater up to 150m
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Originally Posted by aggeloseco View Post
I am concider buying the pro version with the bottom composition but I wanted to make sure that it works fine in saltwater up to 150m
ReefMaster can interpret bottom hardness using several methods, but the second return is the most reliable. So the question is does your sonar show a second return in your waters? (In 150m depth, the second return will be at 300m).
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Do some browsing and reading here: http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/in...qb2&board=73.0
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Originally Posted by aggeloseco View Post
I am concider buying the pro version with the bottom composition but I wanted to make sure that it works fine in saltwater up to 150m
As tainted said, as long as your sonar has the juice for it, RM will deliver. It really is a very good piece of software, and as long as you are willing to spend a few evenings learning how to use it it will do what you want when you want it to.

Together with a friend of mine I run a litle project here in Norway making maps of our lakes. Some of these lakes are both very large and very deep. As of right now we have just over 30 people sending us their track- or sonarlogs, we compile it and make maps that are available for the whole group through our website. (www.dybdekart.no, it's all in Norwegian though.) Currently we handle data from Raymarine, Humminbird, Garmin, Lowrance and Simrad. We make maps using RM and other software for Lowrance/ Simrad and Humminbird, and hopefully Garmin as well as soon as I get my head around how to do it. We can not make maps for Raymarine, and judging by the contact I have had with Raymarine that is not going to change anytime soon.

My point is that since RM can handle the sort of data we are handling, it will handle more or less anything you as just one person collecting data can throw at it.
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Hi can reefmaster be used with a Furuno sounder, thanks Paul.
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Looks like Team Colibri knows his stuff.

http://reefmaster.com.au/index.php/f...eefmaster#1685

Doesn't look good for Furuno.
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Hi can reefmaster be used with a Furuno sounder, thanks Paul.
There is no way to use a map from RM on a Furuno plotter. I'm not sure Furuno has the capability for collecting data either, they have not responded to my emails.
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Originally Posted by tainted View Post
Looks like Team Colibri knows his stuff.

http://reefmaster.com.au/index.php/f...eefmaster#1685

Doesn't look good for Furuno.
Thank you. I`m a beta-user for RM, and have been using the software for about two years. Still learn something new every week though, the world of mapping just expands as you explore.

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