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Old 09-03-2014, 07:16 PM
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Electronic mapping has progressed so much over a short period of time. Mapping such as Navionics with their SonarCharts mapping have made it easy to get the most detailed and up to date maps.

Im curious how many people still use paper maps or other sources for researching lakes. I still find it important to cross reference difference between different sources.

What resources do you guys (and gals) utilize to research?
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:34 PM
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Electronic maps are great however I wouldn't go without a paper chart and a wet compass
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:43 PM
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Always nice to have a good back up paper chart.
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:26 AM
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I have a chart for my waters and a good compass.

Electronics have been known to die.... but I love my GPS/MAP.
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Just a couple weeks ago. Opinions vary to say the least:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...ion-chart.html

I dont keep any charts on the boat.
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For research/trip planning, try activecaptain.com. Paper charts are a good idea on board. Electronics have been known to fail, and sometimes it helps to pull out the chart just to get a different view of, for example, a difficult channel or creek entrance.

You can also download a free chart viewer various places on the interwebs.
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Chances are the paper chart you are using is way out of date compared to the electronic charts.
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Originally Posted by jeffnick View Post
Chances are the paper chart you are using is way out of date compared to the electronic charts.
Perhaps. I replace my chart books every couple years. As they say, don't rely on any single source of navigation information--that's why it's helpful to have both on board.
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Nobody should be totally relying on electronic charts.
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Sorry to go against the grain here but I believe in using electronic charts. If you take a look at the aircraft industry, you no longer need a paper chart if you are using electronic charts in an app such as Forflight. When I took my FAA exam all you needed was an iPad with a back up. That backup can be an iPhone with the same app or other charts loaded.

So with all that said I think with the way technology has progressed and the commitment to many boat owners on dual screens and redundancy, etc, I think electronic charts are totally acceptable. Most people here are not traveling around the world, they are going fishing and have a compass that can point them towards land or other familiar landmarks. Just my opinion, and fully understand there may be others that disagree.
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineMike View Post
Sorry to go against the grain here but I believe in using electronic charts. If you take a look at the aircraft industry, you no longer need a paper chart if you are using electronic charts in an app such as Forflight. When I took my FAA exam all you needed was an iPad with a back up. That backup can be an iPhone with the same app or other charts loaded.

So with all that said I think with the way technology has progressed and the commitment to many boat owners on dual screens and redundancy, etc, I think electronic charts are totally acceptable. Most people here are not traveling around the world, they are going fishing and have a compass that can point them towards land or other familiar landmarks. Just my opinion, and fully understand there may be others that disagree.
Yep.
Electronic charts and those fancy screens keep us in business.
On more than one occasion, and in multiple places, I know personally that following and adhering to the electronic chart/boat icon will firmly place you and your yacht on tera firma.
Just sayin.
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Originally Posted by Parker Yacht View Post
Yep.
Electronic charts and those fancy screens keep us in business.
On more than one occasion, and in multiple places, I know personally that following and adhering to the electronic chart/boat icon will firmly place you and your yacht on tera firma.
Just sayin.
Any chart is a just a tool. If you look at the features you get with an electronic chart system I think it is far superior (photos, currents, updated in many cases). As I mentioned in another THT thread, it is a tool and should be sued as one method of navigation. Site, common sense, water conditions, familiarity, all can aid in navigation. I don't think anyone here is saying keep you yes permanently affixed to the cart plotter and run around. It is helpful tool in the toolbox full of navigational aids.
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineMike View Post
Any chart is a just a tool. If you look at the features you get with an electronic chart system I think it is far superior (photos, currents, updated in many cases). As I mentioned in another THT thread, it is a tool and should be sued as one method of navigation. Site, common sense, water conditions, familiarity, all can aid in navigation. I don't think anyone here is saying keep you yes permanently affixed to the cart plotter and run around. It is helpful tool in the toolbox full of navigational aids.
This may be true, but-----------.
It then takes away common sense. The latest navigational aids, (gps, plotters), have taken away the common persons ability to navigate without them.
Take those away and they cannot leave the dock and find their way.
No boat should be on the seas without a paper chart (for their navigable area) and the ability to read it.
Same as a areoplane. Just my opinion.
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Parker,

Would digitized paper charts be a good compromise?

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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineMike View Post
Parker,

Would digitized paper charts be a good compromise?

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Mike,
It is a changing society. In my personal opinion we have become too dependent on electronic aids.
Phones, personal devices, electronic navigation aids.
I have seen more people "playing" with the "stuff" than actually having fun on the boat the "stuff" is on, then they get frustrated cause there is too much "stuff".
Christ, the "junk" cabinet is filled with power adapters.
Once again, my personal opinion. A paper chart.
That ipad/pod/tablet can get wet, used as a cutting board, etc.

But, who am I kidding, GFSM stole my saying, "I am an analog guy, living in a digital world".

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Parker,

I will call you on you cell phone or beep you so we can talk about it.

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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineMike View Post
Parker,

I will call you on you cell phone or beep you so we can talk about it.

A brick phone, you laugh.

B.I.T.D that said you were (or thought you were) something at Chucks, least it saved you a seat at the bar.
Or your wife/GF could throw it at you while you where googleing (not the Google we know tooday) the stews.
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I go back to these days. Maybe that is why I sound like GFSM, to many watts near my head trying to get a signal.
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Speaking of which-------------.

On the water, are they maps or charts?-------------------



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Originally Posted by parker yacht View Post
i go back to these days. Maybe that is why i sound like gfsm, to many watts near my head trying to get a signal.
lol
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