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TICTACTUG 08-11-2014 11:41 PM

Which and why...raymarine c127 or garmin 4212
 
Ok...I finally have figured out I want a 12" display rather than trying to fit two smaller units in the same space.

I've narrowed it down to the raymarine or garmin units listed above.

I will need it to interact with a fishfinder so keep that in mind. I have a cat and the side view function isn't important, I bottom fish to 500 ft. Troll for salmon at 200 feet and run to the canyon for tuna at 2,000 feet.

I need radar. I like radar with overlay just to make sure I'm interpreting data correctly.

I've used raymarine in the past (c80 and c90w). So I'm familiar but I've heard good things about garmin.

Touch screen isn't important as rough sea conditions make it a little difficult to use.

Thanks for any input. And the final kicker....I don't understand the difference between the c125 and c127. And the garmin 4212 vs the 6212. So if anyone can fill me in on that it would be great as well.

kaz911 08-11-2014 11:52 PM

First - don't go the 4212 route unless you get it dirt cheap - it is almost 2 generations behind the c125/c127. 6212 is the more modern version - but still 1 generation behind the current 8000 series. It is MUCH faster than the 4212 and still gets some software updates (mostly bug fixes - not much in the new features department)

If you want Garmin with buttons and touch - the 1040xs would be where I would be looking today - and not the 4000/6000 series

Raymarine c series - nice machines - I just dont like their non-touch user interface. It drove me mad on my c97 so I replaced it with Simrad NSS8 - where you both have touch and key's in one unit.

The difference between c125 and c127 is c127 has built in sounder - where the c125 does not.

The c series is also WIDE SCREEN - where the Garmins are more 4:3'ish screen size. I do prefer 4:3'ish screens.

But it if was me - in the same price range is the Simrad NSE12 - (non-touch) + 3G or 4G radar and that beats (IMHO) both of the above by miles - or the Simrad NSS 12 + 4G Radar.... :)

Pez Vela 08-12-2014 02:19 PM

Maybe I'm just an old dog.

I've grown up with Apple computer hardware, iPhones, iPads, and all the software and apps that go with them. Over time, I've become fairly proficient using their products. I would never think of switching to a regular PC or anything with an Android system, even if they were considered marginally better machines. The learning curve just isn't worth it for me.

I've also grown up with Raymarine hardware, beginning with its long since abandoned little brother, Apelco. Over time, I've become fairly proficient using their products. I would never think of switching to another platform, even if it were considered to be marginally better. The learning curve just isn't worth it to me.

In anticipation of my last major upgrade, I took a hard look at Furuno. This was well before the FLIR days, when Raymarine was having some annoying hardware problems. I downloaded the Furuno user manual for the machine I was considering and took a look see. It didn't take long for me to realize that my initial hesitancy to switch platforms was well founded.

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. Besides, I'm too old to be taught any new tricks. How about you?

mahimahi99 08-12-2014 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by TICTACTUG (Post 6999656)
... And the garmin 4212 vs the 6212. So if anyone can fill me in on that it would be great as well.

The big thing to know is the 4212 will be phased out soon (if not already), the 6212 is it's replacement and has been for some time. The 6212 has a lot more memory and twice the processing speed. For example, the 6212 can store 100 routes (vs. 20 for the 4212), 5k waypoints (vs 1,500), 50k points & 50 tracks (vs. 10k & 20 tracks). The 6212 also has the capability to control the Garmin Metor (audio hub) and is Fusion Link compatible. In short, if you get a great deal on a 4212 and don't mind buying a little older technology then it's the way to go. But just a side note, there is only a $500 retail price difference between the 6212 and 4212. Also I don't think it's a fair comparison to compare even the 6212 to the C125/127, the Raymarine units have newer technology and also have built-in WiFi (even if you're not interested in it, it's a cool feature that you might use if you have it), the 1040xs would be a more fair comparison (it too has some WiFi features) it has the sonar built in (like the C127) but with CHIRP, however it is only a 10" screen.

semperfifishing 08-12-2014 02:50 PM

And if you want touch...the 7212 is the same price now as the 6212 if going new.

I'm on a boat 08-13-2014 07:26 PM

I wouldn't buy anything that says Raymarine. Garmin all the way.

worldcat 2000 08-14-2014 04:05 AM

The new Raymarine is awesome. We have a complete system C125,C95 RMK9 remote, digital radar and digital sounder,also a evolution autopilot.We fish offshore 25-75 miles offshore..100 times a year.Everybody is quick to write them off.We have had Furuno 582L,585 and 295 also Garmin 7212 with GSD26 all with b260 and b265.Raymarine catches us just as many fish.Screens are bright.Resolution is great.Keeps the customers coming back.Capt.Mike


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