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Old 07-14-2014, 02:23 PM
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Everybody I have talked to Has not been pleased with the picture.I had a Garmin system with a gsd26 with a b265 we actually caught less fish than our Furuno 585-b260.I have a New Raymarine system minus the chirp.Been getting the bug for the CP450c.I talked to a gentleman with a new Ray 450c in a new half million dollar boat.He could not get the picture right...They took it out and put in a CP300..no chirp.Said picture is way better.Can chirp really work in shallow water for bottom fish?From what we've seen a good tone burst system is way easier to operate and gives a pretty darn good picture.Mike
Old 07-14-2014, 02:37 PM
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Search and there are some tremendous images with the Airmar B175W. Pricey but what I saw convinced me to pull the trigger.
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Check my results from SonarHub with B175H-W shown on NSS12 in the thread linked below, a NSS Evo2 has SonarHub integrated and will produce identical results.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...w-results.html
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I think for shallow saltwater the technology is proven effective to 300 feet at least. I'm still not convinced it is better than a 585 in the deep unless you buy one of those $2500 transducers.

I have another thread about that.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...s-canyons.html
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Have seen that post.Nice shots.Not into flush mount transducers. They will cavitate in rough seas. We run a 33 Tournament WorldCat.It handles the gulf as good as it gets.I flush mount transducer will come out of the water in 3ft seas at speed.Flush is o.k.for slow speed. Mike
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I can see individual porgies in a school in 60' with my cp450c. Could count the individual fish. It performs exceptional well. Marked giants in under 200' clearly and also maker small bft feeding on halfbeaks. At the edge clearly showed squid and yft feeding on them. No regrets here.

That being said, my original c series also worked well in shallower water but clearly did not have the level of separation. My garmin sucked compared to my c unit but they were both 2006 units, not the newer ones.

This is with the b260c ducer. The giants and small bft were after upgrading to lighthouse 2 which I believe included enhanced target coding (actually it was the cp450 update that was also performed). The image certainly looks better than when I was running the original software.
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Default Awesome chirp shots in shallow water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3GW...yFT9nB8Z-RxpiQ


Hope this helps. Thanks. - Mike.
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Seen that video also.Looks great.Were not talking bay boats in smooth water.How about offshore boats 10-15 thousand pounds with some waves.Show me chirp offshore .rough chop.My garmin did not do well out there.Did not like the boat constantly moving up and down.
Back to the sea...what transducer? Mike
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Originally Posted by worldcat 2000 View Post
Seen that video also.Looks great.Were not talking bay boats in smooth water.How about offshore boats 10-15 thousand pounds with some waves.Show me chirp offshore .rough chop.My garmin did not do well out there.Did not like the boat constantly moving up and down.
Back to the sea...what transducer? Mike
Pretty sure it's the b260c ducer. Looks just like the b260 and fits in the same hole.

You do get more scatter in offshore conditions as a lot of air ends up under the hull. Still gives me a good picture though. Do usually need to switch to manual depth in deeper rough water.
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If it fits in same hole..faring it's a B265.I've had that ducer With the Garmin set up.Preformance was not as good as hyped.Switched back to a regular b260.The Raymarine chirp ducers have a plug which is nice..no wiring..jumpers.Simrad is also switching to a plug bsm 3.I do think the plug is better.No guess work.Mike
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My boat is not 15 thousand pounds, but here are a couple of offshore shots.. First catching bait.....

next... the top 250 feet or so while live baiting in 6,000 feet of water.... the marks are YFT

last...trolling the shelf at roughly seven knots (speed was wrong not sure why).... I'm guessing pod of whales here?
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Originally Posted by Alabama Jupiter View Post
My boat is not 15 thousand pounds, but here are a couple of offshore shots.. First catching bait.....

next... the top 250 feet or so while live baiting in 6,000 feet of water.... the marks are YFT

last...trolling the shelf at roughly seven knots (speed was wrong not sure why).... I'm guessing pod of whales here?
What transducer and sounder are you using?
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Jupiter,Nice shots..My tone system marks bait like that,maybe better.Not really interested in thousands of feet.I know chirp is better there.I was always a Furuno guy.Show me some of the uhd-Dff1 or the Ray CP450 in shallow water 100ft.I spent 8000.00 on Garmin system in our last charter boat...it was not worth it.I want to see some results.I've got over 8000.00 in new Ray equiptment now with auto pilot.I want to spend 4500.00 more for the cp450 and a chirp ducer,but I'm not going to do it again until I can see it.Capt.Mike
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Originally Posted by HeadHunt View Post
What transducer and sounder are you using?
Airmar b265 through hull. Gsd 26 garmin

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