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Old 07-12-2014, 11:25 AM
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Default New Audio Project... in a 45' Sedan Bridge

I've been a lurker around here for a few years off and on, and learned a great deal early on. This forum seems to be one of the best when it comes to electronics discussions on boats - regardless of type/size/etc.

We're graduating up to a larger boat... a 45' Sedan bridge (not a true fishing boat, I know). But, we will do some bottom fishing/crabbing/trolling with the tender. The boat was largely left unmolested/stock since new. It's now 10+ year sold, so it's time for a complete overhaul of all the electronics on the boat. For this thread, I would like to focus on the audio side...

Essentially, the current setup is a single Clarion head unit (the cmd3 as I recall). It's located in the cabin entertainment center area. There is a remote up on the bridge helm for remote access. It essentially controls 4 zones of the boat...

1) The bridge - which has a 6.5" component set and 10" sub
2) The cockpit area of the sedan bridge - 2 6.5 components. These are tied into #1 above
3) The main cabin - 2 6.5 coax speakers
4) The master stateroom - 2 6.5 coax.

There are 2 amps in the system. a 4 channel Clarion Marine unit that has the bridge and cockpit speakers running 2 ohms off the front stage, and the subwoofer running mono on the back stage.
The 2nd amp is a 2 channel that controls the master stateroom coaxials.
There's a 2 switch setup (labeled cabin and salon) that switches the remote wires. One controls the 4 channel amp, the other controls the 2 channel amp.

For updating this, I really would like to maintain the 4 zone concept if possible... I know the fusion units do this. What I don't know is 'how well' or 'easy to use' it is to control this?

What I am thinking off is doing the Fusion 700 series, and breaking it out as:

1) New 3/4 channel amp to run the bridge speakers as zone 1
2) Run another 3/4 channel amp to run the cockpit area speakers. add a subwoofer there. zone 2
3) Run the 2 cabin coax's off deck power for zone 3
4) Run the 2 stateroom coax's off deck power for zone 4

Add remotes at the bridge, and back cockpit.

I like the integration that the Fusion unit offers, but is trying to actually execute on 4 zones even a good idea? I am intrigued by the idea -- for cool factor if anything. I effectively abandon the manual swiches that control amp power via remotes, and let the system manage everything. I also see integration coming with the rest of the electronics upgrades (Garmin or Raymarine, still TBD).

We'll be adding KVH satellite as well. Other than as an input source on the audio side, does the Fusion offer any specific video distribution opportunities, or for cameras (stern docking and/or engine room). I think the answer is no, but worth a question since many of you guys are familiar with the fusion units.

The other option I have considered is just separating everything into 2 separate/dedicated systems -- outside & inside. I'd put a dedicated head unit at the helm, and a supplemental remote out at the cockpit. I'd replace the head unit in the cabin and wire that into the master stateroom.... This seems like a simple approach, but I'm not shy about going for the new technology! Any pro's or con's worth considering when you consider any limitations of the fusion units?

The one thing I lose by going with fusion is HD radio... I have come to enjoy that locally - and our local stations all broadcast in HD (at least the one's we listen to).

Any advice would be great! I didn't spend much time on the amp/speaker discussion because I think going with JL audio for both is a win/win situation as long as the cost isn't a limiting factor...

Thanks for the advice!
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As I started reading your request and description I immediately thought "man he has the perfect boat for the Fusion 700!!! As long as he didn't want to go with a "home type of stereo"", so when I read that, that is what you're considering, I agree! I have the 600 with all 3 zones and it is very easy to use. Not sure if you've read it or not but to add zones 3 and 4 you'll need they're little zone amp for each extra zone. I'm not sure if a regular amp will work or not, I used they're zone amp and it works great. I have it driving rear facing speakers that are over the motor so that when we're in the water we don't have to crank up the whole boat. The 700 takes it to the next level with all of the control capabilities, your boat is exactly what they designed it for!
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From reading almost all 68 pages of the manual,

It looks like 2 zones can be powered off the deck. I did not see mention that their mini amp is required?

It kind of amazes me that the DVD version is not blu ray, and the iPhone version doesn't support the lightning connector? And, choose Bluetooth or siriusxm....

None of these are deal breakers, but definitely are considerations.

I can't find much on fusion link.... If I use the video out from the deck to a tv, can is how chart or sonar data from my plotter on the television via fusion link? Anyone know?
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You can do both Bluetooth and Sirius off the ip700.
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Originally Posted by Parker Yacht View Post
You can do both Bluetooth and Sirius off the ip700.
I don't think that's the case with the BT200 -- which is what I'd like to use for more/better integration.

My aux input (that I think the BT100 would use) I have targeted as being available for other things like Xbox, Satellite for audio, etc...So, I don't think I can use that one?

Does anyone have any insight if a refresh/model bump of that 700 series is due out anytime soon?

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