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Old 03-19-2014, 06:02 PM
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Default Fusion head unit with JL marine speakers - M vs MX series

Ok, I've already read numerous threads on the JL speakers...but, I couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. I understand that the M series is the higher quality and should be run with an amp.

I want to know if I can run the MX series (7.7's) on just a Fusion MS-600 head with decent results, or should it be run on an amp too. I understand how audio set-ups work fairly well, but the fusion head is higher quality than most and is rated at 70 watts x 4.

Love the idea of the JL 8.8's, but I don't know if I can justify the price of the M series unless you go the whole 9 yards and that adds up real quick.

I've got a polar 2300 bay series and would like to replace the 4 speakers (2 side facing and 2 rear facing) on the center console. Not trying to be the loudest boat at the sandbar, but I appreciate quality sound and don't want speakers I have to replace every year. The fusion head unit is coming up on 6 years old and still works great, can't say that for any other head I've ever tried.

Looking for people to weigh in.
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We sell JL so what I say would be somewhat biased. Let Bradv weigh in here and if you decide to go JL let me know and I will send you a quote of you desire. Mike
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That head unit is 27 watts rms. Don't read the hype. What's your budget? 4 8.8 on a 600/4 or 800/8 would be super loud. 7s loud too on 400/4 or 200/2. 700/5 is a good compromise with subs. Or spring for the 900.
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Marine Mike - No problem, I also wasn't looking to be talked into another brand.

BradV - that's the type of info I was hoping to get on the fusion head and I think answers my question. 27 watts rms doesn't really cut it. As for budget...it's the age old question of how much I can justify spending to my spouse...I'm still a young man that hasn't won the lottery or invented the better mouse trap.

Upgrading to JL speakers will be a drastic improvement over the stock no name speakers that were installed when I bought the boat. I've given thought to a 5 channel amp, but I don't have a good place to easily mount a sub outside of putting it inside the center console. And, I'm not sure that would give me the results I would expect...a speaker inside an enclosed console. That, and the fact that I'm usually near a larger (and louder) boat while at the sandbar...I don't have to (or want to) compete for loudest boat. I should also note that I think I could only fit 8.8's on the side of my console and maybe 7.7's (6.5's worst case) on the rear facing speaker location due to the shape of the actual console and location of the existing speaker holes.

Truth be told, I'm looking for a simple straightforward install. I have no problem cutting out larger speaker holes, and wiring everything up, and I'm not looking for much modification of what is there. It's becoming more of a question of price point and "return on investment" so to speak. 4 mx7.7's with a 400/4 put me in a drastic price difference than 4 8.8's with a larger amp. As usual, I'm trying to find the most economical way to move forward with results that won't sound like crap. I think putting an amp on whatever speakers I choose will be the first step.

So, my ideal set up may be something along the lines of 1 pair of M8.8's and 1 pair of M7.7's with your suggested amp. Or, go the budget minded way of 2 pair of MX7.7's with something like the 400/4. What do you guys think...? I'll be headed the direction of using an amp for whatever selection...just need some guidance on the whole 7.7 vs 8.8 and M vs. MX debates knowing that it will only be a 4 speaker system on a 23' bay boat and not a 30'+ center console with triple outboards.
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I think the simplest would be fusion headunit and 4 mx650s. They will sound awesome. I have 4 running off of just the head unit and it is loud enough and I'm sure the fusion head unit is better than what I am using. If you are "really" interested in sound quality, then you should probably get an amp if going to 7.7s. IMO a good budget amp is the JBL MA6004. You can get them for $100 on amazon and at that price I don't care if it only lasts a year.
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I just had a new system installed in my boat last weekend (didn't have one prior to that). I went with a Fusion RA205 and 4 Fusion 7" speakers, no amp. I think it sounds great and I am very happy with it......plenty loud, clean and crisp sound with no distortion or cracking at all. I wasn't sure if I would need an amp or not, but it sounds great without one so I doubt I will add one now, but I wasn't looking for my boat to sound like a nightclub either.
The RA205 is only 50 watts per speaker, whereas your MS-600 is 70 watts, so I would imagine it would sound fine with 4 of the MX's.
I posted a thread with pics in the marine electronics section if you want to see it.
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Do m770 on the head unit see how you like it. Can add amp or subs after.
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Originally Posted by mattusher View Post
I think the simplest would be fusion headunit and 4 mx650s. They will sound awesome. I have 4 running off of just the head unit and it is loud enough and I'm sure the fusion head unit is better than what I am using. If you are "really" interested in sound quality, then you should probably get an amp if going to 7.7s. IMO a good budget amp is the JBL MA6004. You can get them for $100 on amazon and at that price I don't care if it only lasts a year.
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Do m770 on the head unit see how you like it. Can add amp or subs after.
I would look at a combination of these.
Start with the Fusion head unit and the MX speakers, whatever budget and space allows.
650's, and/or 7.7's. And, if you have the money add a powered Bazooka 8" tube.

Then when you can add an amp, then upgrade to the M Series speakers.

You should be able to do everything above for $1000. No labor.

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