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Old 01-09-2014, 05:11 PM
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I am going to update my primary chart plotter and radar screen next month. I currently run a Garmin 3010c package and want to keep my radar so I will stick with Garmin products. I have my choices down to a Garmin 840xs or 741xs as I would like to possibly add the structure scan in the near future as well for fishing around bridges rockpiles and other structure in the Chesapeake Bay when GPS is not really needed. This unit will not be my primary fishfinder as I have a Furuno GP1870F to use as my fishfinder and back up gps.

Would you go for the larger screen of the 840 or the touch screen of the 741? I will use the unit as my radar screen and can use the entire screen for radar when necessary since my furuno unit is a gps as well. Does the touch screen make the navigation features that much easier or is screen size more important? I have not owned a touch screen unit.

Both units have the same list cost and are GCV compatible...
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:53 PM
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The 741xs and the 840xs are both the same price..$1499.99 so no problem deciding on that issue as mentioned.

The 741xs has pinch to zoom..very easy and fun to use...while the larger 840xs is easier on older eyes.
The 741xs screen measures 6" x 3.6" .....21.6 square inches.
The 840xs screen measures 6.4" x 4.8".....................30.72 square inches.

I personally like a larger unit if using radar.



Wait a few weeks till the new xs units hit the market and then go play with both side by side at the boat shows.


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Old 01-09-2014, 06:26 PM
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X2 on trying before buying. You might find you can't stand the 840xs interface or vice versa. I don't know the price difference, but I would keep the 1040xs in the mix too. That will equal your current units size.
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post

I personally like a larger unit if using radar.



Wait a few weeks till the new xs units hit the market and then go play with both side by side at the boat shows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AccY19HcREM

X3. Have 740 and 5208 with radar. Radar much better on 5208.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:16 PM
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Touch is nice, but size is king in my opinion for Charting and Radar..

Dropping from a 10" to a 7" would be a heck of a drop for me... You're currently using non-touch so is it something you could continue to live with??

I'm betting the speed/refresh rate of the new 840, 1040 etc is going to be so fast that using the softkeys will be far less annoying.... Nobody knows yet, but that's what I'm banking on at the moment.
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Thanks for all the feedback. I was leaning towards the 840xs to begin with due to the larger screen but didnt know if I was really missing something by not going touchscreen. The 1040xs is in the running too but I now have a second unit in the Furuno so I am not sure the extra $500 is worth the extra screen size given that I can run the run the 8" screen as my radar and the 7" furuno as a plotter when necessary in bad conditions.

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Originally Posted by iFishMD View Post
Thanks for all the feedback. I was leaning towards the 840xs to begin with. The 1040xs is in the running too but I now have a second unit in the Furuno so I am not sure the extra $500 is worth the extra screen size given that I can run the 8" screen as a primary radar.
I think whether you go 8 or 10 depends on viewing distance, just like a TV. Seems crazy that there is a $500 difference when compared to the price differences relative to size in the TV world.
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$500 is the list price difference between the 840xs and 1040xs on the Garmin website. I am not sure what the real price difference will be from dealers.

This is my helm set up. I disconnected my GSD22 from my 3010c and use the 7" furuno as my fishfinder. The new unit will be used for plotter and radar primarily and possibly structure scan around bridges, rockpiles, markers, etc. when searching for fish around a particular structure.
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With structure scan the more screen you give it the more detail you get. Not to sway you one way or the other, but you will benefit from bigger, and it is up to you if the added cost is worth the benefit. I am not sure why Garmin made these non-touch screen. It sure would be nice if they had 841 and 1041 touch screens coming out alongside these.
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Originally Posted by iFishMD View Post
$500 is the list price difference between the 840xs and 1040xs on the Garmin website. I am not sure what the real price difference will be from dealers.

This is my helm set up. I disconnected my GSD22 from my 3010c and use the 7" furuno as my fishfinder. The new unit will be used for plotter and radar primarily and possibly structure scan around bridges, rockpiles, markers, etc. when searching for fish around a particular structure.
Based on that view, I would go 10. It's what you have now and you are not constrained by dash space like I was. You may want to run radar and chart side by side so bigger screen is better. Of course its much easier for me to spend your money.

On my setup, the 5208 is right on the dash on the same plane as the steering wheel mount. Probably a few inches closer to the eyeball.
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I Seems crazy that there is a $500 difference when compared to the price differences relative to size in the TV world.
Crazy is putting it rather nice.... I think the term "ripping" people off is more appropriate, but, they know bigger is better when it comes to screen size......
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Originally Posted by Prolineguy View Post
Crazy is putting it rather nice.... I think the term "ripping" people off is more appropriate, but, they know bigger is better when it comes to screen size......
Realistically, how many 8 inch and 10 inch screens are produced relative to 42 or 50 inch screens? I'm sure the difference is orders of magnitude and so at the 8 and 10 inch size you don't have anywhere near the economy of scale of TVs.
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Be VERY wary of release dates! When the 8000 series came out, the first two we got were at least a month past their release date and came loaded with Beta software which crashed. I've done numerous installs with the 741XS where I wished Garmin had same package with bigger screen. My advice would be to let the 840XS hit the market and let Garmin work the kinks out. Even though they're not touchscreen, they're going to fill a slot in the market which is needed.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:05 PM
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Personally, I have the 741xs and like the touch screen. Very intuitive to use. I would line up for a 10" touch screen if it were available. That being said, if I had to choose between 7" touch and 10 non touch, well I guess I already decided.
PS the new update for the 741xs (3.0) has issues.
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Correct....the 3.00 software is being reworked by Garmin as we speak.
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