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Old 11-12-2013, 02:03 PM
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Default Garmin 1204 xHD Radar

I have been on the fence about whether or not to outfit my new boat with radar. While shopping around i noticed you can get the 12Kw cheaper than you can the 6Kw or 4Kw open array. Is there some problem with this unit? i would think this is a no brainer.;? does anyone have any experience with these???????

Garmin 1204 $3100
Garmin 604 $4300
Garmin 404 $3200
Old 11-12-2013, 03:47 PM
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There are a bunch of 12kw remans, that's what you're seeing these low prices on.
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Correct. They are remanufactured units and only carry a 1 year warranty.
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And given the fact that their radars have a life expectancy of about 5 years, I wouldn't want to buy anything other than new when it comes to Garmin radars.
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Originally Posted by mstyle8517 View Post
And given the fact that their radars have a life expectancy of about 5 years, I wouldn't want to buy anything other than new when it comes to Garmin radars.
Do they really? I have a Garmin chart plotter and was hoping to stick with all Garmin to keep things simple, but I keep hearing things like this, it's really pushing me away from Garmin...

Really, only 5 years? What is the expectancy on other radars? More? Similar?

Sorry to hijack OP, I hope you don't mind.
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Let me tell you that I think Garmin builds a great chartplotter, the best in the biz, and their sounder is damn good, but their radars just don't stand the test of time. The good news is their flat rate repair program is very reasonable and they seem to support their open array radars longer than other items, the bad news is between paint issues, modulators burning up, and error codes galore, they have not been able to get their act together on radars. This is my opinion, don't take it as fact, but those in the biz will often say the same. If you want a kick ass setup, go all Garmin for your chart and sounder and put in a Furuno radar, lots of people go this direction and lots of others roll the dice on Garmin. To Garmin's credit, I'll say it again, their flat rate repair is more than reasonable.
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I have such a small electronics box that i don't think i could fit another display. Man I wish I could......
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Thanks for the explanation Max. Good to know about the radars.
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I have to agree on the issues with Garmin Radar units. I have all Garmin gear (2 chartplotters, 2 garmin VHF, depth sounder, autopilot, AIS and Garmin 604xHD). Everything has been very solid except the radar. I have received error codes, burnt up modulators, broken plastic gears. Now, to Garmins credit, they have fixed everything for free, even 1 year past warranty. They have even advanced shipped me replacements. But I have had to replace the Radar unit 3 times in 4 years. When it works, it is great. Very good resolution, great separation detail. Just doesn't seem to be built to take the conditions. But Garmin has stood behind it and fixed it. Just a pain to keep taking it down and putting it back up.
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Originally Posted by mstyle8517 View Post
go all Garmin for your chart and sounder and put in a Furuno radar
The problem with that setup is that you can't get the radar picture to overlay the plotter (chart)… When you go all one brand you can do such things...
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I'd go with the 1204 reman over the 404 or 604 new. I ordered a Garmin 4210 Reman last year and it was a brand new unit. Factory sealed package, even had the newest GPS 19x antenna.

I've studied supply chain management and I think they use the refurbished tag to move excess inventory without running a true sale which requires extra marketing costs and devalues the brand a little.
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Default Garmin Code 6 - Flat rate repair rate?

I have a Garmin 404xHD open array radar on a GMR 4kw xHD pedestal with a 5212 chart plotter...I'm getting the "code 6" and the radar is inoperable....just before this code popped up the powder coating started coming off the pedestal housing......this system was installed Sept 2011 ...I'm a snow bird and spend half the year in FL...with the boat sitting in the water, the other half of the year the boat is on a rack in inside storage. I hear that Garmin has a flat rate repair fee on radar ...does anyone know how much the fee is? I have heard 500 and I've heard 1000. Thanks......
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Originally Posted by kwright926 View Post
I have a Garmin 404xHD open array radar on a GMR 4kw xHD pedestal with a 5212 chart plotter...I'm getting the "code 6" and the radar is inoperable....just before this code popped up the powder coating started coming off the pedestal housing......this system was installed Sept 2011 ...I'm a snow bird and spend half the year in FL...with the boat sitting in the water, the other half of the year the boat is on a rack in inside storage. I hear that Garmin has a flat rate repair fee on radar ...does anyone know how much the fee is? I have heard 500 and I've heard 1000. Thanks......

You can look it up here: http://www8.garmin.com/support/outofwarranty.html
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Originally Posted by kwright926 View Post
I have a Garmin 404xHD open array radar on a GMR 4kw xHD pedestal with a 5212 chart plotter...I'm getting the "code 6" and the radar is inoperable....just before this code popped up the powder coating started coming off the pedestal housing......this system was installed Sept 2011 ...I'm a snow bird and spend half the year in FL...with the boat sitting in the water, the other half of the year the boat is on a rack in inside storage. I hear that Garmin has a flat rate repair fee on radar ...does anyone know how much the fee is? I have heard 500 and I've heard 1000. Thanks......
Code 6 on Garmin Radar is usually associated with a voltage issue. We also are in Florida and would be happy to call Garmin for a cost to fix this unit. Email me please.
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We highly recommend International Marine to our Florida customers for repairs. First class shop and handles all of our Florida electronic installs.
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I have the Garmin 1204 xhd and love it. Great radar.
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Originally Posted by Seastrikefisher View Post
I have the Garmin 1204 xhd and love it. Great radar.

Saestrikefisher,

Just wanted to tell you I love the boat.
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Well I just ordered a remanufactured GMR 1204 from BOE today. Look forward to this new radar replacing my GMR 404. With the 8212 should be a nice system. The remanufactured price was attractive for sure.

I was glad to find out the new units do work off of 12 VDC versus the earlier requirement of 24 VDC, not present on my vessel. I am sure it draws significant power at 12 volts, something to consider in any installation.

It is a challenge for any vendor to build a radar system or any electronic device being exposed to the harsh marine environment and the constant banging on the water. I wash my radar pedestal off with fresh water very time I come back into port.

Jim
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineMike View Post
Saestrikefisher,

Just wanted to tell you I love the boat.
Thank you !!
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Hey mike - what would you recommend..... Open array or closed?

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