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Old 08-18-2013, 12:03 AM
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Raymarine has just released this pilot in Europe.

http://navisco.dk/produkter/77-rayma...topilot-ev100/

Does anyone has a first hand experience with it.
Looking for a good pilot for slow trolling, cruise and network for radaroverlay
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Old 08-18-2013, 05:44 AM
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I'm all ears - the unit sounds very interesting indeed.
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Being installed on my new boat next month. I am looking forward to seeing how it works.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by peterSnow View Post
Raymarine has just released this pilot in Europe.

http://navisco.dk/produkter/77-rayma...topilot-ev100/

Does anyone has a first hand experience with it.
Looking for a good pilot for slow trolling, cruise and network for radaroverlay
Which chartplotter do you have? Buy a pilot which will integrate with your plotter if possible.

No reason to expect Evolution is much different from SPX. The calibration is simpler but except from this expect the same performance.

BTW, Evolution will not calibrate automatically the way a Scandinavian trolling boat is typically used. The calibration is suspended when the speed is below 3 knots and above 15 knots.

I have Simrad AP24 and this pilot works excellent at any speed, even when slow trolling at well below 1.5 knots.
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Abbor, correct me if I misinterpret you but the automatic calibration occurs at a speed between 3 and 15 knots but this is pretty much a one off step? Then once the pilot is calibrated it will work at any speed? I'm not reading anything so far that states a requirement for minimum speeds unlike the s1000.
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Correct, the automatic calibrations happens between 3 and 15 knots, in addition the rate of turn can't be too low. The reason why I mentioned this is because Raymarine is using the automatic calibration as a main selling point for the Evolution pilot, but a large number of users will probably have to turn in circles as with any other pilot to get the Evolution calibrated.

Once calibrated it will work at almost any speed like other high quality pilots.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:07 AM
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I have a Lowrance HDS10 and - soon - a 3G or 4G radar.

Abbor - telll us a little more about this calibration thing !. Do you think (know ?) that the pilot will be inaccurate below 3 knots, and over 15 knots due to lack of calibration ?

Why do you expect the performance to be the same as the SPX series ? As far as i can understand, the only thing that survived SPX, is the display. The compas (9 axis) and the computer (algorithm) are brandnew !
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For me it's marketing blabla.
Four pages document for setup and commissioning show a different story of automatic calibration.
The pilot can/will be inaccurate that's stated .Possible 2°-3° which can be fine tuned, without automatic.
But at least it will have much better performance, at low speed as the S1000 and will have a silent pump.
Also the price is very attractive.

Look's like it the Evolution could kick-out the S1000.
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Well - every brand is using marketing bla - bla - and running a few circles for calibration is not a big thing. What concerns me most, is that Abbor states that the performance has not improwed over the SPX level . The computer and compas is brandnew and state of the art !!
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SPX is a good pilot, Evolution may be slightly improved due to co-location of compass and rate gyro.

The most valuable asset of an autopilot company is the algorithms and software they have developed and perfectioned over a large number of years.If Evolution is not based on the algorithms and the software used in previous pilots I would stay away. But I'm quite sure the Evolution control software is based on SPX algorithms which again was based on S1G,S2G and S3G. I would actually be very surprised if not large parts of the code is reused in Evolution from SPX. One of the main reasons why Simrad and Raymarine are two of the three leading autopilot companies is that they base their pilots on experience going several decades back in time from respective Robertson and Autohelm.

I have both RC42 which is using a fluxgate compass and a rate gyro and Maretron SSC200 which is using a 3-axis magnetometer, a 2-axis accelerometer and a rate gyro on my trolling boat. I don't experience any difference in AP24 performance whichever of the two compasses I use. I also know people which are using Airmar H2183 as heading compass for AP24. H2183 have the same sensor types as EV-100 (3-axis magnetometer, 3-axis accerometer and 3axis rate gyro). I suspect the main difference between H2183 and EV-100 is that H2183 is using more expensive sensors and more rigorous calibration. Even with H2183 there is no difference to notice for AP24 when compared to using a more conventional heading compass like RC42. Since the AP24 performance is close to perfect with RC42 I don't understand what a more advanced heading sensor would bring. I have AP24 on two boats. I have also been out with a quite large number of other boats with AP24. Even the relatively low cost Lowrance Point-1 and Simrad GS25 are using 3-axis magnetometer, 3-axis accelerometer and 3-axis rate gyro in addition to GPS, so is actually most smart phones these days.

I have not said anything about EV-100 performance below 3 knots and above 15 knots. What I have stated is that the calibration is suspended at those speeds.

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Out of curiosity how is a Scandinavian trolling boat typically used then? I know nothing of your fishing techniques but I believe you troll at very low speeds?
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We troll both in large lakes and in the sea for salmon and trout. Most of the time between 1.7 and 3.0 knots, sometimes down to 1.3 knots and up to 4.5 knots. When cruising, 18 to maybe 35 knots for those with large motors.

If I installed an EV-100 in the spring it could take several months before I do any boating between 3 and 15 knots, which is what needed to calibrate the compass.
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Thanks Abbor, not so sure I understand the correlation between spring and an inability to do the required speed long enough to calibrate.

Got your hands on a cp100 yet?
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Thanks Abbor, not so sure I understand the correlation between spring and an inability to do the required speed long enough to calibrate.
This could be caused by frozen water = ice, or frequently fishing at slow speed
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Correct, we start the season with very slow speed just after the ice is gone and increase the speed as the water warms up.
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I have installed the EV-200 (EV-1 course computer, ACU-200 drive controller and P70 display) last week. So far so good. NMEA 2000 backbone (not Seatalkng) with DeviceNet connectors. Garmin 740s chartplotter. 35 kt winds on San Francisco Bay. Kicked out once because of weather helm. Backed off of the mainsheet and it worked fine. Followed the Garmin track without any problems. VERY smooth turns and transitions. Have not tried a multi waypoint route, but expect no problems. No rudder reference installed (my current one has too low resistance - replacing it next week) but Raymarine says you don't need one and they're right...

In short, a fantastic unit and everything that I expected.
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Originally Posted by NonsuchGuy View Post
I have installed the EV-200 (EV-1 course computer, ACU-200 drive controller and P70 display) last week. So far so good. NMEA 2000 backbone (not Seatalkng) with DeviceNet connectors. Garmin 740s chartplotter. 35 kt winds on San Francisco Bay. Kicked out once because of weather helm. Backed off of the mainsheet and it worked fine. Followed the Garmin track without any problems. VERY smooth turns and transitions. Have not tried a multi waypoint route, but expect no problems. No rudder reference installed (my current one has too low resistance - replacing it next week) but Raymarine says you don't need one and they're right...

In short, a fantastic unit and everything that I expected.
Two power boat installs and I have the same same results..
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:51 AM
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Had the EV100 installed last week, and i am very impressed ! . Very smooth turns and super accurate at any speed. I have tried every brand availible on the Scandinavian market, and i am VERY sure i made the right decision.
Found this video on a Scandinavian forum :

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I had it installed on my 40' Ocean. Works great. No calibration. Make sure you get the control unit with the rotary knob.
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