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Old 07-24-2013, 06:25 PM
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Default Broken Smartcraft Gauge Lens

Had my Boga in the e-box and it fell out and busted my speedo lens.

I called Mercury and they directed me to VDO, the manufacturer of the gauges. VDO couldn't help and then directed me to Nichols Speedometer. I contacted Nichols and they couldn't help either.

I understand how the gauge is put together and the issue involved, but I can't believe there isn't a repair or remedy for the broken lens. I really don't want to have to buy a new speedometer gauge, and calibrate the fuel level on the gauge.

Does anyone have any ideas or even a homemade way to repair the gauge?

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Never found a way to fix em. Livorsi used to be able to but don't think they do anymore. Check on scream and fly those guys may know something.
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i know its not faria but for 125.00 they can repair to like new condition any other there gauges
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You might also check with lspeedo.com .
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Thanks guys. I checked with Livorsi Friday and haven't heard back yet. I will try Lauderdale and Faria Monday. I'll let ya know what I find out.
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I literally had the same problem this weekend.

Someone attempted to retrieve somthing from the e box and dropped it right on the speedo guage on my Sea Pro 238cc (looks like you may have the same boat).

I have been calling around this morning (dealers/spedo shops/friends) and reading around on all of the forums.

Two issues i have found so far....the spedo guage that i have (looks like you have the same model year as i do so your may be the same) is discontinued and no one want to repair them.

I do have a few people looking into solutions for me so I will keep you updated.

I have not yet reached out to Livorsi so if they get back to you keep me updated on their response if you dont mind!!
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Originally Posted by jjtash View Post
I literally had the same problem this weekend.

Someone attempted to retrieve somthing from the e box and dropped it right on the speedo guage on my Sea Pro 238cc (looks like you may have the same boat).

I have been calling around this morning (dealers/spedo shops/friends) and reading around on all of the forums.

Two issues i have found so far....the spedo guage that i have (looks like you have the same model year as i do so your may be the same) is discontinued and no one want to repair them.

I do have a few people looking into solutions for me so I will keep you updated.

I have not yet reached out to Livorsi so if they get back to you keep me updated on their response if you dont mind!!
jj,

Man thats crazy! I checked with Livorsi this morning and they are unable to help. The guy I was in contact with said as of the first of this year they quit working on anything other than their own products. He indicated that in the past it was a fairly simple process changing the lens. You just needed patience and a flat head screwdriver.

Im going to check with Faria and Lauderdale as indicated in previous response posts today, and see what they can do.

If you do find a solution PLEASE let me know, and I'll do the same.

Fingers crossed and good luck!!
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I checked with Lauderdale and they said they will not work on the guage becuase of the seal.

Talked to some guy names Matt over at Livorsi....he said the same and then i tried to figure out what i would have to do to get a new system in there but it didnt sound like he new much past what parts were required. I tried to ask him how far back to the motor i would have to go to get a new system in there but he was not a weath of information to say the least.

Ive talked to about 10 differnt people but no one sees to know what to do. Its very strange

I have the marina I use for parts and everything looking into what they can do on their end, I will keep you updated on it.

Hopefully we can find a solution somewhere.
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SmartCraft gauges are running about $100 on eBay, but I would check with Jim at BOE Marine. The calibration process was straight forward on my boat.

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Originally Posted by jjtash View Post
I checked with Lauderdale and they said they will not work on the guage becuase of the seal.

Talked to some guy names Matt over at Livorsi....he said the same and then i tried to figure out what i would have to do to get a new system in there but it didnt sound like he new much past what parts were required. I tried to ask him how far back to the motor i would have to go to get a new system in there but he was not a weath of information to say the least.

Ive talked to about 10 differnt people but no one sees to know what to do. Its very strange

I have the marina I use for parts and everything looking into what they can do on their end, I will keep you updated on it.

Hopefully we can find a solution somewhere.
Yep,

I spoke with Matt earlier also. Nice guy, but I didnt get the answers I wanted. I just called Faria and left them a message. Hopefully I'll get a call back later today.

I did speak with Adam at BOE Marine and he made a good point. Even if we were able to find a replacement lens it would always get condensation in it because we wouldn't be able to vacuum out the air. It makes sense. The lens is heat sealed to the gauge. We also talked about trying to use a heavy gauge heat shrink wrap, ie for meat, for temporary use.

Right now I have a couple of pieces of heavy clear packing tape over the gauge , and I'm just going to leave it on there until the whole unit goes to hell. I know in the future Im going to be super protective over these gauges.

I think our best bet is to get on ebay and starting bidding against eachother for gauages.

Anyway, if you find something out let me know. Thanks!!
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Pretty sure there was just about post about replacing the glass on them here somewhere, but maybe they were just cleaning the yellowing. I don't have broken ones so I didn't really pay much attention.
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Originally Posted by Edd View Post
SmartCraft gauges are running about $100 on eBay, but I would check with Jim at BOE Marine. The calibration process was straight forward on my boat.

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Man, I wish they were a 100 bucks...

Hey John,

I emailed you about talking to Faria. Its a no go.

Let me know what your marina comes up with.

Thanks
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Yep,

I spoke with Matt earlier also. Nice guy, but I didnt get the answers I wanted. I just called Faria and left them a message. Hopefully I'll get a call back later today.

I did speak with Adam at BOE Marine and he made a good point. Even if we were able to find a replacement lens it would always get condensation in it because we wouldn't be able to vacuum out the air. It makes sense. The lens is heat sealed to the gauge. We also talked about trying to use a heavy gauge heat shrink wrap, ie for meat, for temporary use.

Right now I have a couple of pieces of heavy clear packing tape over the gauge , and I'm just going to leave it on there until the whole unit goes to hell. I know in the future Im going to be super protective over these gauges.

I think our best bet is to get on ebay and starting bidding against eachother for gauages.

Anyway, if you find something out let me know. Thanks!!
The glass is NOT sealed completely. It has drain for condensation. So if you can find new glass they are not impossible to replace. The gauge just has a rubber seal to prevent water intrusion - nothing else - and it does not look heat sealed to me. It just has a lot of small tabs on the side to "unplug" - but I'll try to take one of my old ones apart to check.
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The glass is NOT sealed completely. It has drain for condensation. So if you can find new glass they are not impossible to replace. The gauge just has a rubber seal to prevent water intrusion - nothing else - and it does not look heat sealed to me. It just has a lot of small tabs on the side to "unplug" - but I'll try to take one of my old ones apart to check.
The lens isn't made of glass but of a poly material (I think...), and I've had more than a couple of gauge experts express to me that the lens is heat sealed and all air is vacuumed out. They could be wrong. I really haven't checked the gauge or removed it from the dash. Do you a Smartcraft gauge you're possibly interested in selling?
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Originally Posted by masonpauls View Post
The lens isn't made of glass but of a poly material (I think...), and I've had more than a couple of gauge experts express to me that the lens is heat sealed and all air is vacuumed out. They could be wrong. I really haven't checked the gauge or removed it from the dash. Do you a Smartcraft gauge you're possibly interested in selling?
I just have a couple of old tachos where the glass is in bad condition. The biggest problem is the plastic gets brittle with time. But I just looked in and I can't see any evidence of heat sealing anywhere. Just a normal very close fit rubber gasket. But getting the glass out requires either special tool to push the pins - or a lot of patience - I have neither

If you look at the back - there are 2 drain holes. One for the electronics board - and the other goes to the display front as far as I remember.

The gauges are made by VDO - and on VDO home page - they sell their own replacement lenses : http://www.vdo-marine.com/index.php?...oducts=154&L=1

So it should be possible to get Merc lenses from somewhere.
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You guys are actually both correct.

The older SC guages had the plastic/poly lenses but the new ones are all made of glass to prevent that discoloration that most people are experiecning (this is what the guys from merc told me directly).

I did take my guage apart and it is not vacume sealed, i can see only a gasget down there. The problem is that when you attempt to push the lense out of there stff begins to break and then they do not make a repancement lense for what we have (what the guys from merc told me).

I also found out directly from merc that this problem cannot be repaired due to their construction (as soon as i hung up the phone i realized i forgot to ask what happens if it fails mechanically).

I have a few calls to make and then I will post my findings a bit later on in the day.
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At one time Joe - the service manager at Hideaway Marine in Pompano beach was taking these apart and fixing - you might want to call him...

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