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Wish Garmin made a 3FT Open Array

Old 07-22-2013, 10:34 AM
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Default Wish Garmin made a 3FT Open Array

I wish Garmin came out with a 2.5 or 3 foot open array for smaller boats! I have a Garmin 18 HD radar and the returns look like like crap! I tried changing the colors and still look crappy! If you go into the Garmin Simulator mode on the 7212 it lets you choose the outline and inside colors as well as the back round color as well! When I first looked at the 7212 in the store I played around with the screen for about an hour before I pulled the trigger and once it was installed I couldnt change the inner and outter colors! ONLY in simulation mode! Called Garmin and they had no idea why! It was on my 3rd call when i got someone who knew more that than the others he said " those settings only apply to open array" nice of the person in the store to tell me that before I bought all the Garmin equipment! What does the HD stand for on the Radar 18 HD ??? LOL
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Look at my sig pic, 24 ft boat, 4 ft open array. Unless they are gonna hit you riggers go 4 ft. BTW you know what they say about wishing right?
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Originally Posted by CMEBoston View Post
Look at my sig pic, 24 ft boat, 4 ft open array. Unless they are gonna hit you riggers go 4 ft. BTW you know what they say about wishing right?
That doesnt look that bad!!! Everyone I spoke to said 4ft Open would be overkill and look goofy! It may clear my outriggers but will definitly hit my antennas!

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only garmin's xhd radars are color radars. that's why you can't change the 'outline' color.
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GMR18HD isn't the best radar. In fact, I would say its arguably the most entry level.

The GMR24HD will give you a noticeable increase in performance.
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"HD" is ...supposed to be...designating a "high-definition" model. But an 18" pulse-radar dome isn't likely to live up to HD very well.
18" Navico "Broadband"-type may be a different story for limited range.
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I wish Garmin made a radar that lasted longer than 5 years, that would be a great start.
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Garmin's xHD radar in the open arrays only have those options. I think the same goes for duel range as well.
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Originally Posted by TTaxi View Post
"HD" is ...supposed to be...designating a "high-definition" model. But an 18" pulse-radar dome isn't likely to live up to HD very well.
18" Navico "Broadband"-type may be a different story for limited range.
HD with radars has absolutely no meaning whatsoever. it's the same thing as calling it 'super duper' or 18WA for 'wicked-awesome'
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Originally Posted by mstyle8517 View Post
I wish Garmin made a radar that lasted longer than 5 years, that would be a great start.
Roflroflrofl!
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I run a Garmin 18 HD and it's good enough for my navigation purposes. What are you doing with the radar on a 24 foot boat that would require the color feature?
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Originally Posted by Whaler27 View Post
I run a Garmin 18 HD and it's good enough for my navigation purposes. What are you doing with the radar on a 24 foot boat that would require the color feature?
Some times smaller boats look like PIN HEADS and I feel the open array would give me more detail of smaller boats...
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not sure what settings you have on your radar menu as i have an open array but i would try between offshore and harbor. adjust the noise rejection for sea state and rain clutter. adjust gain up and down to get more returns. auto is good sometimes but rarely is my radar or sounder left in the auto position if im actually trying to do stuff that matters like running at night or trying to find deep drop spots.
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Originally Posted by harleymhs View Post
Some times smaller boats look like PIN HEADS and I feel the open array would give me more detail of smaller boats...
What are your settings? I typically run the radar overlaid on the chart with the radar set to auto gain and it seems to work just fine. I run with the chart set at the 3/4 or 1 mile range until I get closer to land or congested area where I will zoom in. I see small boats running a mile or two from me without any difficulty. They don't appear as large targets but they do appear.

Keep in mind that different boats will appear differently on your radar depending on what their relative reflectivity is. Obviously, sailboats with sails up will usually throw up a big return.

An open array is likely to make those pin heads even smaller because the angular resolution of the larger open array is better.
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Default My 23' Steiger Craft looks like a helicopter, I don't care.

I went around and round with the 24" or 4 ' debate. I went 404, no its not HD but I paid the same for the 404 as the 18 HD was at the time. No it does not let me change the color or do dual range, but the returns are nice. The color of the return should be user changeable, because my color blind ass has to look twice at the return on chart overlay.

It looks silly? Maybe.

Do I like it? HELL YEAH !!!

Works great so far 3 years old. I never run it on auto , I crank the gain 'till its noisy then bring it back to drop the clutter.
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