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Old 07-15-2013, 10:26 PM
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So I have been lurking here for quite some time, but finally bought a new (to me) boat that has a whole Garmin suite, circa 2006. The boat currently has a 3210 GPS, GMR 18 Radar (non-hd), GSD 22 Sounder, and a GMS 10 tying it all together.

Working in IT, this kit feels more than a bit sluggish and tired. I've been trying to play catch up a bit and find the best replacement for my buck. So, I turn to you folks!

Should I replace the 3210 with something else in Garmin's lineup and try and salvage my other pieces? From what I have read, the GMR 18 is just so/so anyway, and a lot of people curse the GSD 22.

Should I do a full rip and replace? The kit from Raymarine after Flir has bought them looks pretty damn impressive.

Furuno also seems to have some very trick tech going on with the TZT series.

Any guidance would truly be appreciated. This is on a smaller 26 foot pilot house vessel (C-Dory Venture 26).
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Congratulators on your new boat.
First of all do a couple of shake down cruises to see how everything fits your fishing & boating needs.
If your not fishing too deep sometimes all the GSD-22 needs if a upgraded transducer.

Lots of things happening in the industry so if you can take your time and get by for the moment then you can possibly work into a better system and get somentning that fits both your budget and fishing style and budget.
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I've been looking at the 7212, but wonder if it isn't set to be replaced soon. I'm also open to doing a complete rip and replace. The 3212 is just terribly slow, uses proprietary card reader/cards (which I don't have) and clearly is a dead-end.

If I invest in something like a 7212, I assume the GSD 22 and the GMR 18 (non-hd) would be compatible or would that not be the case?
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Originally Posted by haakebecks View Post
I've been looking at the 7212, but wonder if it isn't set to be replaced soon. I'm also open to doing a complete rip and replace. The 3212 is just terribly slow, uses proprietary card reader/cards (which I don't have) and clearly is a dead-end.

If I invest in something like a 7212, I assume the GSD 22 and the GMR 18 (non-hd) would be compatible or would that not be the case?
Yes, the 3212 is slow and a bit dated... but does have some interesting history...Noah had the 3212 on the Ark but was only used for about 40 days or so.

The GSD-22 will work with the 7212 ( and later you can upgrade to the GSD-24) ...as will the GMR 18.
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Can you PM me a quote for the 7212. I might as well get an idea of pricing.

Thanks!
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Do you want or like touchscreen chartplotters? I prefer buttons on a moving boat. On a fast boat (>18 knots), it is difficult to use the touch screen while under way due to the boat's motion.

We have been using the 4212 (buttons) since it came out (2008) and love it. We have a GMR 24 (radar), GHP 12 (autopilot), GSD-22 (sonar) and a second smaller 4208 display for our flybridge.

Everything is networked together using bus topologies: 1) NMEA 2000 (CAN bus) and 2) Garmin Marine Network (Ethernet Garmin version). The schematic below shows our boat's networks. I left out NMEA 0183 connections to make this more clear.

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The 3210 is a great chartplotter but only has room for one Garmin Marine Network device. You can buy an external network device to add more, but you have 3 ports built in on the 4000 and 5000 series devices. Also the 3210 does not support NMEA 2000 at all, only NMEA 0183.

Prices below are for retail 12" versions with maps included. I am sure you can find better prices as suggested by Semperfifishing.

4000 series Garmin use buttons $2500
6000 is faster version of 4000 series. $3000

T O U C H --- S C R E E N --- B E L O W:

5000 is touch screen version. $3000

7000 is faster version of 5000 series. $3500

8000 is faster version of 7000 series. $5000

Good luck on your upgrade. It will certainly be fun building your new networks.
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Simrad and Raymarine have excellent options for those who prefer to have both touch and buttons (Simrad NSS and Raymarine e series)

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