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Old 03-03-2013, 11:55 PM
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I've narrowed it down to two different lights. I'm trying to keep it at under 300 bucks a pair. Here's what I found:

Aqualeds 18's in green -or-
H20 8 LEDs in white


The aqualeds are 130 bucks. 1700 lumens and of course green(better for raising fish?). The H20's are 149 bucks. About 800 lumens a piece and white (not as good as green?). The appeal of the H20's is their sleek round chrome look. The aqua LEDs are appealing that they are machined brass so they are as rugged as Rosie O'Donnell. But they are blocky, just like Rosie. They seem to put out crazy light as seen on the YouTube video, and of course the green color. Which would you choose? I know coastalnightlights makes some nice lights but I want something with a smaller footprint and with a metal housing.

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Old 03-05-2013, 03:41 AM
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Tough crowd.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:30 AM
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Isn't there a guy on here that sells underwater lights for much less?
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:14 AM
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Coastalnightlights.com by ScarabChris on here. Nothing but super positive reviews.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:32 AM
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Coastalnightlights.com by ScarabChris on here. Nothing but super positive reviews.
Yeah I know. They do look like awesome lights but the only ones that are going to fit my transom well are the singles and its questionable if they will put out enough lumens to raise bait. Here on the west coast, its all about raising squid to your boat to get the fish to follow. Our waters are deep so I'd need lots of lumens. Many hardcore fishers here say that transom lights aren't enough and use floodlights with generators. Otherwise, I'd buy from Chris.
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What are Aqualeds? Google comes up dry for me.

I've been looking a lot into LEDs -- best I can come up with are the power draw is highly correlated with brightness, and beam angle/lens will determine how far out it projects. The rest is build quality. If you want multicolor, strobe, etc. you'll pay up.

From what I can determine, Lumitec SeaBlaze Series and H20 lights offer the best output / dollar (based on $/watt) by a mile, though I currently don't own anything to comment anymore than that.

I hadn't heard of H20 before your post, just looked into them, so I know nothing about build reputation. I haven't seen anyone complain about issues with the Lumitecs.
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Lumitec, ShawdowCaster and Lifeform are the best lumen for dollar lights out there and they are American made.
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I have shadow casters and the are awesome! Great light!
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Originally Posted by BlueWolf LED View Post
Lumitec, ShawdowCaster and Lifeform are the best lumen for dollar lights out there and they are American made.

Those are some good names you have mentioned and worth every penny I am sure. The lumitecs are probably the most affordable out of the bunch but still more than I want to spend. I'm really leaning toward the aqualeds. For about $260 I'd have 3400 lumens behind the boat! That's a lot of light for a little price. All the components are American made and has an unconditional two year warranty. I can't find anything bad said about these lights on the net. Unless somebody tells me otherwise, I'm ordering some on Monday.
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The new style lumitec blinded me for a few minutes at the store display. Probably just as bright as Lumishore which are much more expensive. They are also advertised as twice as bright from their first generation. I would definitely be looking at those.
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I bought three of the new Seablaze X at the Miami show. Went with the white and blue combination so can switch the look. Boat on land still but very impressed so far
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Originally Posted by lakemonster1 View Post
Those are some good names you have mentioned and worth every penny I am sure. The lumitecs are probably the most affordable out of the bunch but still more than I want to spend. I'm really leaning toward the aqualeds. For about $260 I'd have 3400 lumens behind the boat! That's a lot of light for a little price. All the components are American made and has an unconditional two year warranty. I can't find anything bad said about these lights on the net. Unless somebody tells me otherwise, I'm ordering some on Monday.
I've realized in tyring to compare LEDs you can't pay attention to quoted lumens unless they were measured in a light sphere, which isn't done by most manufactures, so I've settled on $/watt to be my best proxy for value. The fact that AquaLED quotes 1700 lumens for all colors is already suspect (blue measures much lower lumens for equivalent powered LEDs from what I've seen)

Those AquaLEDs are a 14 watt light (1.2A x 12) so if you can get them for $130 (where? website doesn't say and they are $160 on ebay), that's around $9/watt and pretty good value from what I've been able to find.

The Lumitec's run just about the same, maybe a little cheaper, per watt, and seem to be the best value on the market (along with H20), but you'll pay more since they are much more powerful lights (SeaBlaze3 are 30 watts and SeaBlazeX are 50 watts). You can get some SeaBlaze3's for ~$265 online.

The only other thing to consider is build quality/warranty/features like reverse polarity & thermal rollback protection, ignition protection, etc. The Lumitecs seem pretty good on that front.

I've been putting together a table that compares all brands in the 'reasonable' price range, so I'll try to post when it's complete.
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Originally Posted by JJMATE View Post
I bought three of the new Seablaze X at the Miami show. Went with the white and blue combination so can switch the look. Boat on land still but very impressed so far
Those are at the top of my shortlist -- when are you putting in? I'd love to get your feedback on performance and if the 2 color (1/2 power each) sacrifices too much output, or if the SeaBlazeX extra power (50 watt vs. 30 watt for the SeaBlaze3) makes that a good choice. Some reviewers complained about the output drop when both weren't on with the older model.

Also what's your beam -- I have 13' wondering if 3 would cover that?

And last question -- I've seen two versions of the lens on these (clear vs. a diffuser), which is the final shipping version? See photos in link below:

http://www.google.com/search?q=seabl...Q&ved=0CEgQsxg

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Running 2 Lumitecs SeaBlaze blue/white on my transom, nice and bright, easy install.
Also have 2 Caprera lights mounted with RAM mounts under my T top. Overall, very impressed with both sets.
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I have Lumishore smx20 surface mount are they are super bright , a few pics of my boat from Christmas parade in semi-clear water.
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I have Lumishore smx20 surface mount are they are super bright , a few pics of my boat from Christmas parade in semi-clear water.
Those are nice!
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the lumitecs have been an awesome light for the money, i sell them about 15 to 1 to the other brands. ive got a few being installed on my yellowfin now in conjuction with an ocean led a12- the lumitecs seem as bright as the a12 for much less money!
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Originally Posted by mikeym View Post
the lumitecs have been an awesome light for the money, i sell them about 15 to 1 to the other brands. ive got a few being installed on my yellowfin now in conjuction with an ocean led a12- the lumitecs seem as bright as the a12 for much less money!
The A12 Pro are a 22w light, vs. 30w for the SeaBlaze3 so they should be brighter.

Have you had many issues with durability on the ones you sell?

I'm about to pull the trigger on the SeaBlazeX but would love to get some real world feedback on 1) comparison w/ the SeaBlaze3, and 2) Blue/White performance as it is 1/2 power to each when in single color mode -- am I better off just getting a single color?

There are only two surface mount 50w lights on the market that I can find (Lumitec SeaBlazeX and Abyss Starfish) and the Abyss is almost 2x the price, and I haven't seen great feedback on that brand.
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granted ive only sold ~150 or so of the seablaze 3 lights, ive yet to have one come back for warranty. im still waiting on first batch of the seablaze x, they really look sharp and still priced well- no first hand experience yet. the 2 color lights are half as bright because half the leds are 1 color, half the other. i would definitely do all one color.
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Just realized I misstated the power of the SeaBlazeX -- 44 watts, not 50.

After seeing too many "our lights are the brightest" and "my lights look great" comments, I put together this absurd spreadsheet comparing all the various models available to try and get a better grip. I'm now obsessed with figuring it all out. Of course it had a typo.....
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