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Old 02-26-2013, 06:41 PM
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Whats up everyone. I need a bit of help choosing a new audio setup for my new Dusky. The boat was delivered this past mid October and I haven't yet put in a head unit or speakers. On my old boats, which were smaller cc's, I just went with run of the mill crap. A head unit and 2 cheap speakers mounted on both sides of the console because nothing ever lasted in that console with the spray. However with the Dusky, the deck doesn't see a drop of water on the deck and it is the FAC model with the cabin below the console so there are a bunch of opportunities for me.

With that said, I was thinking the JL audio route for 2 speakers and a sub and amp.
I will be making the purchase from West Marine because of the ability to save some money with a Port Supply account. I was there tonight and what seems to be the best option for me is a pair of MX650's, the M10135 10" sub, and the Sony XM604M amp. I realize that the amp isn't the greatest and it is rather large, but it fits the budget and I have plenty of room in the cabin for installation. Would this setup be a good choice?

If so, my second question is the head unit. Here's what I am looking to do: I do not need a cd player as I only listen to pandora and fm. I have an IPhone5 but cant find any docking stations compatible with that, everything I have seen is for the Iphone4. I would like to be able to mount the head unit to the right of my step down as you enter the cabin and a remote to mount on my dash next to my throttle. What are some good units that are reliable and have the options I am looking for that will be a good match to my speaker/sub/amp selection.

Sorry for all the questions, but car and boat audio has never been a interest of mine in my 20 yrs on the water, but with such a bad ass boat, I want to do it right and have a nice setup.

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Old 02-26-2013, 06:47 PM
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I just installed a Fusion MS-RA200. It has a USB port on the back. You can just plug your iphone USB cable into the back of the unit and then to your iphone and play Pandora through the unit. Works great. No need for a docking station. I also installed the Sony XM604M along with 4 Fusion 6" speakers.
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Also as far as speaker location is concerned, would it sound ok to have one flush mounted on each side of the console where the step up is for the walk around? Or would I be better off putting them on each side of the console itself at the same height as the gunnel or a little below so it bounces off the sides?

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I just installed a Fusion MS-RA200. It has a USB port on the back. You can just plug your iphone USB cable into the back of the unit and then to your iphone and play Pandora through the unit. Works great. No need for a docking station.
I know thats always an option as it is what I have always done in the past. I was just wondering if technology has caught up yet to the iphone5. Are you happy with the fusion? That was one of the units I have been contemplating
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Very Happy with the Fusion so far. No complaints at all. One thing that is a big plus to me...you can store all of your favorite preset stations, then turn the master battery switch off and when you turn it back on, you still have the presets saved. It does not loose them with total battery power removed.
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Our JL pricing should beat Port Supply. You can find it here http://www.boemarine.com/brands/JL-Audio.html

Polyplanar has a new Bluetooth amp setup coming out in the next month or so. With this new setup you would just mount the new bluetooth dash fitting, and an amp. I'm guessing the price will be in the $150 range, but have not seen the price yet.

I would suggest looking at Wet Sounds too. We started using this equipment a year ago and have switched over to it exclusively for high end installs we spec out - http://www.boemarine.com/brands/Wet-Sounds.html
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I am looking to outfit my boat now, and asked if anyone had anything new to report from the Miami Boat Show. Everything available is older hardware so I was hoping something new would be available in the first part of 2013.

Most everyone's music now comes from smart devices, so head units are not always the answer these days. You can get away with only running a pre-amp with a ipod/phone attached, if you never listen to fm/am stations.

However after having the bluetooth feature in my vehicle, I think it is a must for the boat. Only unit I found that supports this is the Alpine CDA-118A, it also supports 2 volume zones and wireless remotes which is awesome, and zone control is also a must. However this unit was new in 2010 and looks outdated to me, and the lcd/menu is quite lacking.

With a Preamp, Wetsounds 420 or Exile ZLD, you could add a Bluetooth reciever but this seem hokey to me as usually the units are self contained and have to be charged.(Plug in to a Aux jack and stream music from your phone) I would like just to add a simple 12v device that gets hardwired but performs the same function.

Speakers and amps that's the easy part.
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Originally Posted by yachtjim View Post
Our JL pricing should beat Port Supply. You can find it here http://www.boemarine.com/brands/JL-Audio.html

Polyplanar has a new Bluetooth amp setup coming out in the next month or so. With this new setup you would just mount the new bluetooth dash fitting, and an amp. I'm guessing the price will be in the $150 range, but have not seen the price yet.

I would suggest looking at Wet Sounds too. We started using this equipment a year ago and have switched over to it exclusively for high end installs we spec out - http://www.boemarine.com/brands/Wet-Sounds.html
I saw the polyplanar amp and that is awesome, need a high end company to follow suite
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yachtjim View Post
Our JL pricing should beat Port Supply. You can find it here http://www.boemarine.com/brands/JL-Audio.html

Polyplanar has a new Bluetooth amp setup coming out in the next month or so. With this new setup you would just mount the new bluetooth dash fitting, and an amp. I'm guessing the price will be in the $150 range, but have not seen the price yet.
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Well, I am assuming this is your business. With that said, what would you suggest for me to use for a 2 speaker, 1 sub, and a head unit setup for under $1,400? I am open to your suggestions. Like I said, I have always gone run of the mill, so all of the technical talk is over my head. I just want quality,loud, good sounding music that when I am sitting at the dock is enjoyable or if I am hammering offshore thru 5fters is enjoyable and audible.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:35 PM
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Also, how are JL speakers and subs when it comes to water? Am I going to be able to wash my boat down without worrying about destroying these or am I going to have to always go around them with the hose as much as possible?
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you look like you have lowrance stuff on the boat you might want to look into the sonic hub.
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JL's are durable, true marine grade. As long as your not one of those boaters that pours bleach on everything, they will last a long time. I brush over my speakers grills with the ultra soft brush, after a fresh dip in the boat soap bucket, then a low pressure rinse.
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Good to hear about the durability. I was thinking about the sonic hub, but I cant dock the iphone5 into it so the hell with it, plus I really dont want to be controlling anything audio related with my Lowrance.
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Originally Posted by PeteinCT View Post
Well, I am assuming this is your business. With that said, what would you suggest for me to use for a 2 speaker, 1 sub, and a head unit setup for under $1,400? I am open to your suggestions. Like I said, I have always gone run of the mill, so all of the technical talk is over my head. I just want quality,loud, good sounding music that when I am sitting at the dock is enjoyable or if I am hammering offshore thru 5fters is enjoyable and audible.
8" Wet Sounds Speakers

http://www.boemarine.com/stereos-ent...-system-white/

Syn2 Amp http://www.boemarine.com/entertainme...s-h-amplifier/

Fusion RA200 Stereo http://www.boemarine.com/entertainme...-ready-mapped/

And then BT adapter like this http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...e-Adapter.aspx There are several adapters like this available. Or you can wait for the one that Fusion will offer.

This will be a top shelf setup with powerful 8" speakers within your budget.
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Whats up everyone. I need a bit of help choosing a new audio setup for my new Dusky.
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what would you suggest for me to use for a 2 speaker, 1 sub, and a head unit setup for under $1,400?
Headunit: Fusion IP 700
Speakers: JL Mx650 or Mx 770
Amp: Fusion MS DA51600 (google it)
Sub: Fusion or JL

You will not be disappointed with this setup. The amp is scary large for power output, and its a 5 channel amp, so it powers 4 speakers + a sub. JL speakers sound great and hold up incredibly well. Fusion offers one of the best warranties in the industry.

Buy it from BOE. Jim's prices are very competitive. I just priced out the headunit, amp, and speakers from above and it came to $1,200. Fusion's sub is another $100 and JL's is another $250. I doubt you will need a sub with 4 pairs of speakers running that much power, but you might as well, given the amp already powers it.
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Just did the CMD 6 and XC 6410 Clarion products from amazon. Both were on wicked good sales. The JL 770s on BOE were pretty solid price as well, but I bought sighly used on THT to save a few more bucks. 800 bucks and i am rocking! Good luck and definitly shop around.
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Guys thanks for all the help. Here is what I came up with while at work. I just logged on to here for the first time today and it looks similar to Im on a boat's setup.
JL M650-CCX-CG 6.5" (4)
JL M10IB5-CG 10" Sub (1)
JL M700-5 Amp (1) ***Jim doesn't have them in stock***
Fusion RA200 Head Unit


Got one question regarding the head unit. I saw a review on youtube regarding the fusion and have no clue what this means and if it is a bad thing. So what I will do is copy and paste and let you guys decide. Jim if you have any input, please chime in.

beyondhelp00 4 months ago

"These units really are good, but do have one massive flaw (as far as I've been told) No hi-pass filter for the amplifier outputs. This is BAD and a huge oversight, It means we are forced to play bass through the main outputs.I don't want my 4-5-6 inch speakers to be forced to play down to 30-40hz where they are inefficient incapable of this. It wastes amplifier power and draws unnecessary current from the head unit, when the sub could take all this load like in any true professional system.."
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Im on a boat-The amp is scary large for power output.
Scary large is becoming old technology. New amplifiers are coming in small packages with large power these days.
Memphis audio just came out with a new line of amps that are a little bigger than a pack of cigarettes.
They are called SA amps. They have two models. one is mono 300 watts rms at 2 ohms , the other is a four channel 50 x 4 rms at 4 ohms. I dont even know if they are on there site yet but I just got my first shipment of them.... Not marine grade though...
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http://www.me-mag.com/product/item/4...ion-amplifiers
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