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Old 10-12-2012, 04:16 PM
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I am wanting to put a Home VHF radio in the house, Anyone have any Idea
what the longest length of Cable I can run to the ant on the roof.

Is there a Limit on the length ? How does one tune something in Like that ?
I know some people use a Meter to check things SWR ?????

Anyway I was planning on running the wire looks to be around 40 foot run on the wire to the ant is that a Problem ?

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Old 10-12-2012, 04:21 PM
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Shouldn't be an issue, a lot of sailboats have their VHF antenna at the top of the mast. FYI, what you want to do is technically illegal. Get your house a boat name and mum's the word otherwise.
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I did 50 feet and no tuning, was not a problem but I was only listening, not transmitting.
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A marine VHF at the house would be listen only. Can't transmit without a license. But no practical limit on cable length-though I wouldn't go over 75 to 100 feet.
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I have always heard that base VHFs were illegal, anyone know the basis for this law?? Why would they care?
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http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...coast_stations

Only available to those entities providing a service to vessels.
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Shhhhhhhhh.........
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okay I would only listen anyway...Thanks I doubt they really care
I usually have cell service to tell the wife things are good.......and we safe

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Old 10-12-2012, 06:38 PM
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Always usually?

In that case, I think you'll be fine
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Long runs of coax can be pretty lossy if you use the cheap stuff. The longer the run, the more expensive the coax needs to be. If you really want two-way (legally), you & your wife get your Amateur licenses and use a local repeater. Or for listen only, a scanner will usually do, and might come in handy for other than just marine VHF monitoring. BTW, an Amateur VHF will cover marine freqs for receive only as well...
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I will just stick with my Cell phone it works most of the time along with my Spot
did not know there was so many issues with doing this....

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There are so many marine VHF radios in homes that I don't think you'll have an issue. I wouldn't be advertising the fact that you're calling someone from home. I also would not be on the CG or emergency channels.
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With the new RESCUE21 system, the USCG radio watch stander will have an instant direction finder bearing and fix on any transmission that is monitored. It will be immediately obvious where the transmission is originating. Previously the USCG had very little radio direction finding equipment, and it would take an FCC crew to track down a transmitter. Now RESCUE21 does this all the time in real-time.
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Just for curiosity sake...how many base stations are being busted by the Guard? Seriously, I am interested.
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Originally Posted by cape_fisherman View Post
Just for curiosity sake...how many base stations are being busted by the Guard? Seriously, I am interested.
I've seen them bust people for using handhelds on land in a marina, and yes, they were looking for tham
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Originally Posted by Izzy351 View Post
Long runs of coax can be pretty lossy if you use the cheap stuff. The longer the run, the more expensive the coax needs to be. If you really want two-way (legally), you & your wife get your Amateur licenses and use a local repeater. Or for listen only, a scanner will usually do, and might come in handy for other than just marine VHF monitoring. BTW, an Amateur VHF will cover marine freqs for receive only as well...
With an Amateur license, you can also use Echolink and talk to hams around the world using your smart phone or iPad, so long as you're in range of the tower.
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Originally Posted by cape_fisherman View Post
Just for curiosity sake...how many base stations are being busted by the Guard? Seriously, I am interested.
I doubt the USCG would take action regarding illegal operation of a transmitter. The FCC would take enforcement action for violation of the FCC regulations. The FCC does enforce their regulations. Not too long ago they cited and fined a car dealer who was using a large number of Family Radio Service unlicensed radios at his commercial dealership. The fine was something like $10,000.

The VHF Marine Radio Service is not designed to allow recreational boats to chit-chat with unlicensed shore stations. If you construct and operate an unlicensed shore station and repeatedly communicate with boats, you will eventually attract attention and most likely an enforcement action.

I previously wrote:

The Enforcement Bureau of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), acting on complaints from the U.S. Coast Guard, investigated interference to VHF Marine Band Radio Channel 16 in the Melbourne, Florida area, which was being transmitted from an unlicensed radio in a vehicle on land. The operator of the radio was fined $20,000.

In areas where the U.S. Coast Guard radio watch facility has been upgraded to the RESCUE21 equipment, radio direction finding is automatic and nearly instantaneous, producing a range and bearing to the transmitter location of most transmissions monitored by the USCG in the VHF Marine Band. The FCC Enforcement Bureau located and tracked the vehicle, and observed the operator making illegal transmission from his car.

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I will just get a scanner and listen.......that should be legal right ?

Can any one recommend a scanner ? or as long as I dont transmit i can use the reg VHF in scan mode.

cell phone for telling the wife we safe and headed home or will be late
the spot works good also
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Originally Posted by Coconut Sunrise View Post
I will just get a scanner and listen.......that should be legal right ?

Can any one recommend a scanner ? or as long as I dont transmit i can use the reg VHF in scan mode.

cell phone for telling the wife we safe and headed home or will be late
the spot works good also
There is no law that says you can't have a fully functional marine radio installed at your home.

You just can't legally transmit.
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Here's a solution. Install the radio on a boat in the water at the house, then, from the house, use a remote mic that actually transmits from the boat. I just put a wireless remote mic for my Gamin radio on my boat. I had a WHAMX4 mic for my Uniden, and often used it from the dock. Since the actual transmission is from the boat, it's not a problem.

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