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ReelJoy 07-07-2012 12:47 PM

XM Weather
 
Just curious if some of you captains think this is worth having on board. I will be running HD Radar with my Garmin 4208, and have enought safety equipment for two boats on my rig. Trips will average 80-100 miles out with the occasional overnighter in ice cream conditions.

I hear more cons than pros about using XM weather, overlayed on combo plotters/independent screens. Trying to decide if it's worth the extra cost to have it installed/monthly cost to use it a dozen times a year.

Thanks for any advice/input.

bluewaterpirate 07-07-2012 12:56 PM

Don't leave the dock without it. I've seen ice cream conditions turn to milk quickly. Been using it since 2005 first unit Garmin 376 c, then 545' and now a 740. It's saved my butt a more than one ocassion.

Read thru this thread I posted some pictures and video.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-e...like-crap.html

Miss Trial 07-07-2012 08:31 PM

I won't own a boat without it? What could you have possibly heard bad about it?

ReelJoy 07-07-2012 08:35 PM

There is a thread started on 2-cool fishing, local forum for us - Sabine Pass - Corpus Christi - that bashes the you know what out of it.

MikeBador 07-08-2012 03:51 AM

Since you would be using the weather only a few times a year, I would recommend going with the Garmin GDL30.
It is pay per use ($5 for 24 hours) and cell phone based.
This would be much cheaper than paying $50/month on the GXM51.

Intrepid377 07-08-2012 05:08 AM

Not sure what there is to bash about it. The way you describe your outings I would recommend having it. It's great for getting the big picture on what weather systems are doing. It also shows lightning strikes which can be REALLY helpful if you're trying to dodge weather.

In addition, it give weather synopsis that go beyond what you'll get on your VHF. Wouldn't it be nice to wake up in the morning, 80 miles offshore, and just take a peak to make sure nothing in the forecast changed?

hottoddie 07-08-2012 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by MikeBador (Post 4748370)
Since you would be using the weather only a few times a year, I would recommend going with the Garmin GDL30.
It is pay per use ($5 for 24 hours) and cell phone based.
This would be much cheaper than paying $50/month on the GXM51.

I have the Garmin GLD40 cell based unit and it is fine for my near coastal use. The OP travels 80-100 offshore where it would be useless.

soup5887 07-08-2012 05:20 AM

Mike, I believe you are talking about the gdl 40. It is cell phone based and will not work offshore. Reeljoy, Having satellite weather will allow you to monitor the weather. You can move and zoom into any area and it will show you track movement of the storms. It will allow you to see and plan. I have xm weather in my plane and boat and would not fly or leave port without it.

Miss Trial 07-08-2012 05:27 AM

Is this the thread you are talking about?

http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/sh....php?p=4202934

I got to say that if the biggest complaint is that sometimes the color weather radar with lightening strike information and mariner warnings, etc. are 15 minutes old, that the silliest thing I've ever heard. And they probably don't know how to use it. If you don't want to see 15 minute old weather all you have to do is turn off the loop and it will generally stay about 2-3 minutes delayed, not 15.

MikeBador 07-08-2012 07:10 AM

Correct, I meant the GDL40
The OP talks about over 100 miles trip but does not specify if it will be coastal away from home base or offshore.
If he stays coastal, the GDL will save him a lot of money. Both at initial purchase and monthly fees.

Danny33486 07-08-2012 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by MikeBador (Post 4748370)
Since you would be using the weather only a few times a year, I would recommend going with the Garmin GDL30.
It is pay per use ($5 for 24 hours) and cell phone based.
This would be much cheaper than paying $50/month on the GXM51.

This does not work off shore

I use Siruis - here is why I like it. Tuesday night we did a sword trip - we arrived at the swordfish grounds about 25 miles off shore at 9:15 PM, to be greeted by heat lightning. I simple zoom out of my HDS and I could see that the storm generating the lighting was 25 miles south east and moving away from our drift. So no worries.... Later we could see a small light rain storm about 8 or 9 miles ahead of us just to the east as well, If it had been in our path we could move.... I dont like to make 25 mile runs in 1 AM in a 21 foot boat with out knowing there is not a storm in my path. I like and the cost to keep me dry once is worth it.

ReelJoy 07-08-2012 10:32 AM


In addition, it give weather synopsis that go beyond what you'll get on your VHF. Wouldn't it be nice to wake up in the morning, 80 miles offshore, and just take a peak to make sure nothing in the forecast changed?
Yes it would. Thanks for the insight.


Is this the thread you are talking about?
That's it and you have a great point.


The OP talks about over 100 miles trip but does not specify if it will be coastal away from home base or offshore.
Trips will be 80-100 offshore - Flower Gardens, Floaters, etc..

I have heard in place that the service is $20/month and then here at $50/month. Does anyone know the difference between the two plans? Or is the $20/month bogus?

MikeBador 07-08-2012 01:19 PM

See link below for options. The $50/month includes all options.

http://www.xmwxweather.com/marine/da...ce-pricing.php

nevermind... 07-08-2012 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by MikeBador (Post 4749388)
See link below for options. The $50/month includes all options.

http://www.xmwxweather.com/marine/da...ce-pricing.php

Thanks for the link! I reviewed the features and just changed mine to the fisherman pkg from the master mariner. I used the radar to watch past the horizon yesterday when I was 35 miles from my home port and then when running back to the marina. I saw lightning and very dark clouds on the horizon and watched the direction on my Garmin 740s. I was very glad the main cell was heading away from me. Very cool stuff to have on the dashboard of a small pleasure craft.

Buoy Scout 07-08-2012 05:48 PM

I use xm weather all the time to avoid pop up storms on the chesapeake. Saved my butt more than once.

Just Not Right 07-08-2012 06:09 PM

I use mine all the time, also, I get the music when im out 50 miles... (i'm not an Ipod or Iphone guy)
I have the less expensive package.. less then $30/month, I had the $50+ package and never used any of the features.
I'm using a 545s w/GXM31

Ken T 07-08-2012 06:25 PM

By all means, get it . I beat the weather to the checkered flag,(home) had the boat on the lift and was looking out the window when the bottom fell out.


Gmack 07-08-2012 06:35 PM

I have had it for a couple of months. Have made 3 trips with it. I will not fish offshore without it again.

Friday I was able to see a huge, nasty storm system moving from inland southward to my home port. This from 35 miles out. I was able to take action and make it to dock just before the rain started. Had it caught me offshore it could have been a brutal ride home.

Saturday I was able to monitor a huge nasty system that kept me from heading out until I got a feel for the direction it was heading. I would have called the trip or waited for hours had I not had xm weather,

It allowed me to fish the last 3 days offshore all with scattered showers and we never got rained on.

I have a garmin 545 with the $30 per month package.

alacrity 07-08-2012 08:52 PM

i crossed to bimini this week and we left the dock at 640am with 2 adults and 5 kids. before leaving i saw a fairly large and angry thunderstorm between miami and bimini. i was able to see the development and track of the storm and shifted my course south to run around the storm which was moving north.

we got a few drops of water and it got a little bumpy near the storm. that's it. i told everyone on board that the information i received on that crossing was easily worth a year's subscription price. because of xm weather, i was able to avoid a terrible storm and avoid going through a difficult time and i was able to make the trip.

coming home today, from bimini i watched the storms develop on land in miami and could see that they were moving westwardly and not coming offshore towards bimini. it gave us 5 hours more in bimini to have fun.

it is a priceless piece of equipment, equivalent to an EPIRB.


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