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Old 03-21-2012, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Old School View Post
Also, you can mount the transducer on the mount, but you can slide it up under the hull, .


Now that is some very interesting news !

Can you talk more about that ?

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Originally Posted by Team Old School View Post
I have had the luxury of testing the new LSS-2 with Simrad NSE 8.

I, of course, have the newly updated versions that Fishton had not received yet.
SIMRAD NSE8


I bet you don't have this one ... ( I loaded it before testing yesterday)

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Originally Posted by Team Old School View Post
There is very little difference because the shots that Fishton posted were of the first Un-released BETA version BEFORE updates have been made. He got an extremely early testing version, which is nearly the same before the upgrades have been made. The version I have has had all of the upgrades and updates, and is quite different than the LSS-1. Also, you can mount the transducer on the mount, but you can slide it up under the hull, mine is mounted just like his, but not 6 inches from the skeg! I have had ZERO issuses from the skeg blocking the return.

All of this hoopla is for nothing.
Wait for the finished product.
Take it easy TOS, you getting upset over nothing here, we are on the same side after all.

And personally, I think my setup is doing a LOT better that yours.

Compare range from your video ...

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Also, you can mount the transducer on the mount, but you can slide it up under the hull, mine is mounted just like his, but not 6 inches from the skeg! I have had ZERO issuses from the skeg blocking the return.

All of this hoopla is for nothing.
Wait for the finished product.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say you can slide the transducer up under the hull ? Can you please explain this in more detail and if possible attach some pictures ? Any info would be very appreciated !
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"If you think I'm just an EXECUTIVE desk jocky, be sure to watch my videos catching dozens of TROPHY Striped Bass, and this one of my 2 Sons locked up on a 52 and 57 pounder at once!="

T.O.M.,
I do not believe you are an excecutive desk jocky, but trying to figure out the your motive of your post?
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I like to stick to more comparison type screenshots.
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Originally Posted by Fishton View Post
I like to stick to more comparison type screenshots.
What kind of a boat do you run?
I have no idea but if i had to guess id say.......yarcraft
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Originally Posted by Fishton View Post
I bet you don't have this one ... ( I loaded it before testing yesterday)

so are they enabling 800khz on the LSS2 module/transducer then Fishton?
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Originally Posted by doctorxring View Post
Now that is some very interesting news !

Can you talk more about that ?

dxr

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If you look at the new LSS-2 xducer it has several sets of holes - looking at the existing bracket, and the "new" bracket, they appear to have the same hole pattern - the holes on the LSS-2 appear to be aligned so that you can switch the LSS-2 xducer forward or back depending on your cable routing needs and then mount into the same 6 hole pattern that is on the LSS-1 bracket today.

I don't know, but assume from looking at the pics of the mounts, that TeamOldSchool is talking about mounting the bracket low enough so that the xducer itself would clear the lower part of your hull, and then mounting the LSS-2 xducer in a set of holes that would result in part of the xducer sticking "forward" of the bracket - thus up under the hull. This would serve the effect of moving the overall xducer forward, away from the lower unit of the outboard.

I wonder how well the xducer would then "kick up" if a log or other hits it - although I don't guess the LSS bracket is really designed to kick-up like the smaller traditional transducers are anyway......
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wow thats a beautiful setup
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Originally Posted by boatside View Post
so are they enabling 800khz on the LSS2 module/transducer then Fishton?
Yep
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How do you get all these secret codes and all this info.

Sure would be nice if everyone that spent thousands would get all this info also.
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Originally Posted by bayrunner16 View Post
How do you get all these secret codes and all this info.

Sure would be nice if everyone that spent thousands would get all this info also.


These gentlemen are members of Lowrance's field test staff. This LSS-2 unit is not on the market yet. They are working with Lowrance and giving feedback from the field on the various software tweaks for the LSS-2. You will benefit from what they do when you
install your LSS-2 in April when it comes on the market.


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Originally Posted by doctorxring View Post
These gentlemen are members of Lowrance's field test staff. This LSS-2 unit is not on the market yet. They are working with Lowrance and giving feedback from the field on the various software tweaks for the LSS-2. You will benefit from what they do when you install your LSS-2 in April when it comes on the market.
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Originally Posted by mwardncsu View Post
If you look at the new LSS-2 xducer it has several sets of holes - looking at the existing bracket, and the "new" bracket, they appear to have the same hole pattern - the holes on the LSS-2 appear to be aligned so that you can switch the LSS-2 xducer forward or back depending on your cable routing needs and then mount into the same 6 hole pattern that is on the LSS-1 bracket today.

I don't know, but assume from looking at the pics of the mounts, that TeamOldSchool is talking about mounting the bracket low enough so that the xducer itself would clear the lower part of your hull, and then mounting the LSS-2 xducer in a set of holes that would result in part of the xducer sticking "forward" of the bracket - thus up under the hull. This would serve the effect of moving the overall xducer forward, away from the lower unit of the outboard.

I wonder how well the xducer would then "kick up" if a log or other hits it - although I don't guess the LSS bracket is really designed to kick-up like the smaller traditional transducers are anyway......
EXACTLY! And this was the determining factor before I put my current bundle up for sale. The LSS-2 transducer is just under 10.25 inches and I will need to place it just forward of center for it to mount onto my 'toon. It will still be about .5 inch above the bottom of the log so I should have as much protection as my LSS-1 transducer has. I was relieved to find my mockup worked fine.

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I have a question. Where are all the fish in this structure nonsense? I know it's definitely cool technology but in real world use, does it really help you catch fish? I've never been on a boat with structure scan, but it seems a bit of a gimmick to me. Right now I'd rather put my money into a better sounder/transducer.
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Depends on the fishing you do. For the largemouth bass guys finding structure and fish holding on the structure is key. For fresh water striped bass when they are schooled up deep, the side-scan is useful for finding and staying on top of the schools.

Different tools for different needs.....
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Alex,

You are partially correct. Currently, a lot of guys here in the midwest utilize the sidescan/downscan for locating structure. I believe these units - transducers were built to identify good structure in which fish like to hold too. If you find structure, then you find the fish. ;?

However, fish will show on the sidescan / downscan as white tick marks, or dots. Here is a shot of some bait fish I took in the Mississippi River around St. Louis. Honestly, I prefer the downscan more often than not. It actually shoots a wider image that you'd think, and easy to identify fish. Either way, in my opinion it is difficult to pick out what is or is not fish. But, on the flip side if you get a good scan on a big fish it will leave a shadow that assists in identification. imo.
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Thanks for the info. I have twin motors plus a kicker/trolling motor, trim tabs, and three transducers, one being the LSS-1. When I troll using my kicker motor and speed up, it clouds up the port side of the screen where my kicker is on that side.

The ss transducer I feel is already to long and was tough to find a place for it. I even have a 9'6 beam.
I think the longer transducer will be a big problem for me. I already have to lift the starboard motor as its cavitation plate overlaps a little.
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What is the real max operating depth of the HD system? The Lowrance site does not give the specs, but says the non HD is good to 150 with a side range of 500. It says the HD will got to 600, so I suspect it will go to about 170 before the water column takes up too much of the screen.

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