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Old 03-05-2012, 05:56 AM
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Hey everyone!

I just purchased a 2012 Sea Hunt Ultra 211 and am looking to set myself up with a Lowrance HDS10 or HDS 8 Gen 2 with the LSS-1 Bundle. The questions I have are what else do I need to fully up and running?

Do I need a GPS Receiver (LGC-4000)? If I want weather radar do I also need the LWX-1 antenna??? Do i need a Network Starter Kit to link everything together??

I'm also looking to add a Lowrance LVR-250 radio. Can someone recommend an antenna?

Again I am a complete newbie to this and want to make sure I have a great electronics setup. I love the HDS series but I want to make sure everything is set up correct.

Thanks in advance for all responses!

Peter

PS - If anyone has a similar installation, I would love to see a picture or two!
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Originally Posted by Rabender View Post
Do I need a GPS Receiver (LGC-4000)? If I want weather radar do I also need the LWX-1 antenna??? Do i need a Network Starter Kit to link everything together??
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Most likely no..... the internal GPS receiver will usually pick up signal with out issues even with a hard-top T-top. The LGC-4000 does provide position data a little more frequently which can be useful if doing some very slow drifting/trolling-motor trolling, but generally not required.

If you do decide to get the LGC-4000, then you would need he NMEA2K Network starter kit to build and power a NMEA2K Backbone.

If the VHF you are looking at can connect to NMEA2K, then you'd need the NMEA2K starter kit as well. If you ended up going with the LGC4000 and a NMEA2K connected radio, then you may need an extra 'T" and/or cable - I can't remember how many come in the kit - you may find buying a 2nd Starter kit is the most economical path vs. buying individual parts.
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Most likely no..... the internal GPS receiver will usually pick up signal with out issues even with a hard-top T-top. The LGC-4000 does provide position data a little more frequently which can be useful if doing some very slow drifting/trolling-motor trolling, but generally not required.

If you do decide to get the LGC-4000, then you would need he NMEA2K Network starter kit to build and power a NMEA2K Backbone.

If the VHF you are looking at can connect to NMEA2K, then you'd need the NMEA2K starter kit as well. If you ended up going with the LGC4000 and a NMEA2K connected radio, then you may need an extra 'T" and/or cable - I can't remember how many come in the kit - you may find buying a 2nd Starter kit is the most economical path vs. buying individual parts.
Each NMEA2K starter kit comes with the NMEA power cable,a 15ft cable,a 2ft cable, 2 "T"'s, and 2 terminating resistors. Like mwardcsu said though, check to see exactly what your setup will be and figure out how much individual parts would be next to purchasing another NMEA starter kit. If you get the second starter kit also, you will have backup cable in case something would happen to your current ones.

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I also missed the respond on the LWX-1 - if you want the Sirius Weather overlay data, then yes, you need this. This accessory connects to your HDS setup over Ethernet - it has an Enet cable already connected so you just need to plug it into one of the Ethernet ports on the StructureScan box. No other cables needed for that..... unless you want to feed Sirius audio from the LWX-1 control box to a stereo's AUX-In, then you'd need a cable with a 1/8" head-phone jack style connector on one end to go to your Aux-In input (and whatever connectors needed there).
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I also missed the respond on the LWX-1 - if you want the Sirius Weather overlay data, then yes, you need this. This accessory connects to your HDS setup over Ethernet - it has an Enet cable already connected so you just need to plug it into one of the Ethernet ports on the StructureScan box. No other cables needed for that..... unless you want to feed Sirius audio from the LWX-1 control box to a stereo's AUX-In, then you'd need a cable with a 1/8" head-phone jack style connector on one end to go to your Aux-In input (and whatever connectors needed there).
Thanks everyone for the rapid reponse..... Will my HDS receive weather without the LWX-1? I dont feel like paying $13 a month to Sirius, but I def want to have local radar!

Thanks again for all your help!!
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No - you have to have the LWX-1 and the monthly subscription to receive weather.

Note, the pricing on that unit has changed - I believe it is now $99 and there is a $99 Visa Gift Card "rebate" from Sirius when you activate the service for some duration.

You can suspend your service after some time for a duration, for instance if you are not using the boat over the winter, etc....

For "local radar" - assuming you mean weather radar - if you are in cell-coverage then a smart-phone and appropriate app or web-site may be your best bet.... if you are outside of cell-coverage, then Sirius is your path.
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Originally Posted by Rabender View Post
Hey everyone!

I just purchased a 2012 Sea Hunt Ultra 211 and am looking to set myself up with a Lowrance HDS10 or HDS 8 Gen 2 with the LSS-1 Bundle. The questions I have are what else do I need to fully up and running?

Do I need a GPS Receiver (LGC-4000)? If I want weather radar do I also need the LWX-1 antenna??? Do i need a Network Starter Kit to link everything together??

I'm also looking to add a Lowrance LVR-250 radio. Can someone recommend an antenna?

Again I am a complete newbie to this and want to make sure I have a great electronics setup. I love the HDS series but I want to make sure everything is set up correct.

Thanks in advance for all responses!

Peter

PS - If anyone has a similar installation, I would love to see a picture or two!
I bought a new Sea Hunt V225 22' walk-around last year and outfitted it with:

1. HDS-10 with the 83/200KHz transponder for sonar (I got the LGC-4000 by accident, but in looking at status screen, it's within 1-2 dB of the built-in receiver, but not bad to have a back up!)
2. LWX-1 Sirius weather satellite receiver (and got the radio, too)
3. 3G broadband radar w/ RC42 heading sensor to allow radar overlaying the GPS chart and the RI-10 radar interface to allow MARPA tracking
4. Standard Horizon GX-2150 with DSC and AIS (integrated into HDS via NMEA0183) with PA/Fog Horn
5. ETEC 200HO engine connection via NMEA2000...other engines similar
6. 2 LMF-400 LCD gauges that are programmable for any/all engine, speed and fuel data (they connect via NMEA2000 as well)
7. Needed a NEP-2 for running all the ethernets and various cable kit crap.
8. 8 ft. VHF antenna

Been very happy with the set up. This year were I to start over, since technology moves fast, I would either do a HDS10 Gen 2, or a Simrad NSS-12, forget the LGC-4000, probably forget the LWX-1 as the weather radar is wicked low res, move up to the 4G radar (the latest model...3G was latest last July). The AIS utility depends on where you boat. A simpler thing this year would be to get the SH GX-1700 VHF/DSC with built in GPS and buy perhaps a cheaper alternative to the RC42 heading sensor that can interface over NMEA0183 like the KVH or similar.

On the satellite weather, I would've preferred the XM Marine weather, but that was not available for my setup. If it was available for the Simrad NSS that would have been a big driver for me.

A good idea to have the dealer install all this stuff.




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