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Old 02-29-2012, 01:21 PM
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Hey guys... I was ready to pull the trigger on an Lowrance HDS 7 today, but when I went to pick it up they only had the unit without the maps (Basemap I believe it was called) so it did not have the Insight maps installed.

It was $100 cheaper, but the Navionics chip they had to sell was $250.

All of this lead me to wonder... is the Insight & Navionics chip the same thing? If not, is the Navionics mapping better? I didn't buy anything and left, but now i'm curious if I should buy the unit without the Insight and buy Navionics or vice versa??? ;?

Whats the consensus on mapping for the HDS series?

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BOE Marine has some great info on this so I put the link here for you: http://www.boemarine.com/support/art...2-3502049756b0
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Oh yeah, here's a link to even more info that is probably more helpful than the first link I posted: http://www.boemarine.com/support/art...c-bc22bf98cdbb
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Thanks for the links. I read through them and I have one of my answers. The Lowrance Insight & Navionics are not the same. They are two different chips with two different mappings.

Does anyone have any experience with the Navionics gold chip?
Is it worth paying a little more to have the Navionics over the Lowrance Insight maps?

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I got the Lowrance HD mapping. Very happy with it. My dad has the Navionics chart which is also great.
If I remember correctly the base units are 7x less detailed than the chart chips... I could be wrong but that's what comes to mind.
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If you can find a place that has both and will let you look - do that. The mapping quality for navionics vs insight varies by location. If you can get to a show and see them both, look at structure or places you are most familiar with and base your decision on that. In my area (Long Island Sound) the navionics chips are better imo. It also really depends on what you need it for. Are you a cruiser or a bottom fisherman? Do you stay in the same area all the time, or are you likely to make trips into unfamiliar territory?
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Originally Posted by slapshotjh View Post
Are you a cruiser or a bottom fisherman? Do you stay in the same area all the time, or are you likely to make trips into unfamiliar territory?
I'm an inshore guy... most of my fishing is in 5 ft or less of water.
That being said, I do travel to unfamiliar territory quite a bit.
The only time I really need the depth finder is when we're looking for bait that is holding dep or tarpon fishing around the passes/bridges.

so my main concern is having the mapping available for unknown areas in southwest florida.

i know west marine sells the navionics chips, but I doubt they are going to let me open the package and try it at their store.
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I have Navionics Gold on my Lowrance GPS/FF and am happy with it. I agree with slapshotjh about taking a look at both to see what works. I also like BOE marine's suggestion to get a base unit and buy the Navionics chip. That's what I did. Depending upon the size of the GPS/FF, a Navionics Gold card may cost you close to nothing in that you will save about $ 200 when buying the base unit rather than an Insight USA unit.
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I actually run the Navionics Gold on my HDS7 side by side with the built in Insight maps on my HDS10. I prefer the Navionics Charts, but mostly because they match the paper charts that I grew up using and generally have more detail (at least in the PNW).

One of the nice things about the Navionics Charts is they are portable, so I also use them on my laptop and often use them when chartering.
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Originally Posted by jbibler View Post
Thanks for the links. I read through them and I have one of my answers. The Lowrance Insight & Navionics are not the same. They are two different chips with two different mappings.

Does anyone have any experience with the Navionics gold chip?
Is it worth paying a little more to have the Navionics over the Lowrance Insight maps?

Josh B.
I'd be careful if you have Gen 1 HDS. I find with Insight maps, the time it takes to change scale can get troublesome. I think Navionics maps have more detail, so you may want to try before you buy (ie., see a demo).
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Well I went ahead with the HDS 7 with the Navionics Gold. It cost me $70 more to get the Navionics gold, but after reading and watching some Youtube videos it seemed like the Navionics was the more detailed mapping.

I was in a hurry to get something on the boat before next weekend, so I had to make a decision. I got the HDS 7 at a very nice price, which is the only reason I chose the Lowrance over the Garmin. I've always had Garmin and been happy with them, but it was going to cost me more for the Garmin with the 5" screen compared to the Lowrance with the 7" screen.

Hopefully I don't regret my decision!
Can't wait to get it on and running!

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Originally Posted by jbibler View Post
Well I went ahead with the HDS 7 with the Navionics Gold. It cost me $70 more to get the Navionics gold, but after reading and watching some Youtube videos it seemed like the Navionics was the more detailed mapping.

I was in a hurry to get something on the boat before next weekend, so I had to make a decision. I got the HDS 7 at a very nice price, which is the only reason I chose the Lowrance over the Garmin. I've always had Garmin and been happy with them, but it was going to cost me more for the Garmin with the 5" screen compared to the Lowrance with the 7" screen.

Hopefully I don't regret my decision!
Can't wait to get it on and running!

Josh B.
Good Luck with your purchase. The HDS-7 is a nice unit and as far as I can see, it's the best priced GPS/FF in its size class.
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Where were you able to find the navionics for $70?
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Where were you able to find the navionics for $70?
West Marine quoted me the HDS 7 with Insight for a certain price.
It is on clearance. When I got there, they discovered that it was a BaseMaps unit without Insight maps. (They had the model number wrong in their inventory)

HDS 7 BaseMap unit was $100 cheaper than Insight unit, but Navionics Gold chip was $200. So price difference was $100 more... they gave me another $30 off the price to try to help, so it cost me $70 difference to have the Navionics Gold instead of the Insight.

With the $200 rebate on the unit, I don't think I can beat the price for this 7" screen. I also opted for the 4 year, no questions asked warranty.
If anything happens to the unit (my fault or not) for 4 years I can return it and get a new one. Since this unit is phased out, I would get a new Gen 2 unit instead. (This is what the sales manager told me).

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Hey Josh if you will send me an email to eams@comcast.net I will send you something that will make your switch from Garmin to HDS Experience much nicer. Please put FORM in the subject line.

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Get his name, number, address, photo, blood type, etc, etc...

In others words get it in writing on the receipt or you may hear,
"Oh, this has happened before Mr. jbibler, the old manager (that we fired) was telling customers things that just were not true. We are so sorry. How else can we help you today?"

Cover your @$$!


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Originally Posted by Edd View Post
Hey Josh if you will send me an email to eams@comcast.net I will send you something that will make your switch from Garmin to HDS Experience much nicer. Please put FORM in the subject line.

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If this is something to help us technically chalenged people I would be interested also. Please.
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Originally Posted by JOEKEN View Post
If this is something to help us technically chalenged people I would be interested also. Please.
Joe, everyone here is welcome to this form. Just send me an email to eams@comcast.net and I'll forward to you. Please put 'FORM' in the subject line.

Does anyone know of a way to pin these forms to the top? File size is too large to send as attachment. Maybe one of the Mods?

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Also bought the HDS7 and opted for the Navionics Platinum+ from BOE. Very happy with the combo.
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Originally Posted by jbibler View Post
I'm an inshore guy... most of my fishing is in 5 ft or less of water.
That being said, I do travel to unfamiliar territory quite a bit.
The only time I really need the depth finder is when we're looking for bait that is holding dep or tarpon fishing around the passes/bridges.

so my main concern is having the mapping available for unknown areas in southwest florida.

i know west marine sells the navionics chips, but I doubt they are going to let me open the package and try it at their store.

This will fix all of your inshore mapping navigation issues:
FloridaMarineTracks.com

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