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Old 02-27-2012, 12:28 PM
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Hi everyone. I'm in the market for a new VHS. my old one does not have DSC and it's upper range is limited to chanel 68 (I believe). Anyway, I'm looking at radios in the $150 to $200 price range. They all seem to have the DSC function that integrates your GPS position and even allows you to see other vessels in the area that have DSC. The also have mics that can change the chanel and other functions on the radio.

I'll admit that some of the features and specifications listed on the boxes don't mean anything to me. Is there a reason why I should buy one radio over another at this price point?
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Both are good radios IMO and are priced equal when compared feature to feature. I was using ICOM in my old boat but the new has SH. I'm not swapping them out.

I do like larger displays for my older eyes. If you have a sight issue up close I'd consider that.
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Had the ICOM and replaced with a Std Horzion. Night and day difference. Our new boat will have the Std. Horizon GX1700B. New style, GPS built in. NEMA 2000 acceptable without the wiring.
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Standard Horizon, innovative and great customer service.
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Both are great radios. Had a Icom 302 for around $150 dollars and no problems. I just bought a Standard Horizon 2150 for a little over $300 and like it alot. The reason I bought it was for the AIS system, It hooked to up to my GPS and now I can see all ships on my GPS.
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Thanks guys. I have to ask if the commercial guys use Icom because Icom actually makes more expensive models with additional features?
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I think this site is mainly a recreational crowd, not commercial. Both are nice radios. SH has a longer warranty and is generally easier to use. The GX1700 with an internal GPS and the GX2150 with built in AIS are 2 very innovative radios.
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There is higher profit for sales in a Standard Horizon vs Icom.

Just go to a marina and use them both. You'll understand. The Icom is built like a tank. Like Furuno. Yes, they typically cost more. But I see many 15 year old Icom VHF's still working wonderfully.

Just an alternative opinion.

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I will have to get a new radio soon, and like what I see on the SH GX1700B, but not sure how well it will connect inside the radio box under the hardtop.

When I got my HDS10 and didn't yet have the external GPS antenna connected, it would connect, but took some time. Once the external GPS was connected, it hooks up almost immediately. So thinking in a stormy situation, I would have a much more reliable connection with the external antenna.

So, this leaves me to this thinking and debate:
1. Get the Lowrance LVS-880 that will tie into the HDS NMEA2000 network flawlessly.
2. Get the SH GX1700B and hope it connects well enough to be of use.

They are both priced near the same which is in my area of budget.

I have had an older SH that finally bit the dust. It somehow took in water while mounted under the dash so was not happy with that, but it was a very old unit.

I like the Icom's and they seem to put out good strong signals and are reliable, but I am torqued on them in regards to not being able to program in the MMSI number without having to send them back to the factory. That is to me, just unacceptable to prevent a safety type device from being used without such complication.
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I prefer ICOM have both but it's apparent when you look at both units which is better built. In regards to the GX1700 in the radio box not to worry you can connect an external gps antenna to it it necessary or connect the Lowrance gps input if the internal antenna doesn't provide sufficient connectivity.

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Owned & used SH for many,many years. Current unit is 12+ years old but will be replace with ICOM. Current SH build quality not even close to the older models.
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I have both on the boat and agree with the comments about build quality. I use the Standard Horizon to monitor Ch 16 and to receive AIS data. If I actually want to talk to someone, I use the ICOM. It just seems to work better and definitely sounds better.

Of course, YMMV,
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Bluewater, thanks for the details. One thing this leads to is more cost over my budget of approx. $200 and having another antenna on top.

So far, leaning back to Lowrance LVR-880 due to simplicity of hookup to HDS.

Agree with it seems ICOM is better for some reason as I always leaned to using it over the SH. I switched the SH with the ICOM in my old boat so ended up with both ICOM's.

Then, went through the extreme frustration of trying to hook them up to NMEA0183 and I am done with that.

I wonder why other radio's have not yet gone to NMEA2000?
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If you are looking for top quality in all respects, Sailor is worth considering.

http://www.thrane.com/Maritime/Produ...%20Series.aspx
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I had two Icom 604's go bad last year. One had the rotary channel selector knob fall off, the other has a connection issue on the rear of the radio. Icom's customer service wasn't the best. While the emails came back promptly, they were less than helpful.

Having said that, if I built a boat today, I would put in a another pair of 604's. Its a fantastic radio.
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Thanks again guys. It sounds like I should try to find a way to talk on both. Well, we can't do that on land and until the season starts, I won't get a chance. I guess I'll go look at the display units again (sigh).

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