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Old 02-17-2012, 05:45 PM
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Default Furuno 585 v Simrad NSE

I'm after peoples opinions as to what sounder they would chose between a furuno 585 with a TM260 or a NSE8 with a BSM-2 and a TM265LH (CHIRP)? And the reaons why?

I would be using it for gamefishing and deep drop fishing in 1650' +.

Gil has already given his opinion on this. Interested to see what other think.

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Old 02-17-2012, 05:59 PM
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Matt,
I will give it again for the record.

At 1650' plus a CHIRP system will outperform not only the FCV585 / Tm258 but any traditional tone puse 1 kw system....and do multiple times better in every sonar paramater.
CHIRP is an amazing advancement in sonar technology for the recreational user.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:03 PM
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You are comparing a traditional 1 kw system with a next generation CHIRP system that costs twice as much. No contest there I would think.

I have a 585+TM260 and I can tell you I'd be lucky to even see bottom at 1650'!

I think the real question is which CHIRP system to get? Garmin, Simrad, or the new Raymarine. Any opinions on that Semper?

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Originally Posted by wugubob View Post
You are comparing a traditional 1 kw system with a next generation CHIRP system that costs twice as much. No contest there I would think.

I have a 585+TM260 and I can tell you I'd be lucky to even see bottom at 1650'!

I think the real question is which CHIRP system to get? Garmin, Simrad, or the new Raymarine. Any opinions on that Semper?

bob
Matt's question was..what is better...the FCV585 and the Tm260 vs the CHIRP..I personally love the FCV585 and the Tm260..I sell a ton of them year after year and my customers hold on to them forever..great units.

But Mat really does not know about CHIRP...and simply wants reaffirmation that it might be better..I think it is.


As to twice as much..not really.

A CHIRP sonar BB and CHIRP transducer can be had for about $650 to $850. more than the cost of a FCV585 / TM260...depending on the transducer.

It always comes down to cost.
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Does furuno make a chirp unit?
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
As to twice as much..not really.

A CHIRP sonar and CHIRP transducer can be had for about $850. more than a FCV585 and a TM260.

It always comes down to cost.
If you don't already have a MFD that supports CHIRP, you know that is already at least a FCV585 or even more than FCV585+TM260 $$. Garmin needs 4000+, Simrad needs their MFD, and Raymarine needs a new MFD as you know.

If you are starting from scratch, which CHIRP system do you think performs better? Garmin or Simrad?

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Originally Posted by wugubob View Post

I think the real question is which CHIRP system to get? Garmin, Simrad, or the new Raymarine. Any opinions on that Semper?
It'll be very interesting to see if one yields better performance than the others. So far it appears that they're all pretty comparable.
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Originally Posted by wugubob View Post

If you are starting from scratch, which CHIRP system do you think performs better? Garmin or Simrad?

bob
Have used and sold both..each has the same level of target detection ability.. amazingly accurate.
You can't lose with either...both are equal winners
But for me personally , the MFD's aside...I prefer the Gamin GSD26 over the BSM-2.
I am from a commercial fishing background and relate more easily to the visuals of the Garmin.

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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
I prefer the Gamin GSD26 over the BSM-2 .
Thanks. Any idea when the Raymarine MFDs and CHIRP sounder will actually be in stock for shipping?

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Coin toss....
They were supposed to have a ton of the new units at the Miami Show.
Didn't happen.
And regardless of the Ray CHIRP sounder unit being available or not...I have not heard of a delivery date as of yet for the Raymarine version of the CHIRP transducers .
As a matter of fact, I called today and no transducer units scheduled so far.
Can't use the sounder without the ducer.
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Originally Posted by coastalfiberglass View Post
Does furuno make a chirp unit?

This question was raised on the Furuno Forum regarding CHIRP:

Hi guy's,
I was wondering if Furuno had chirp in the work's yet? I see Simrd first then Garmin now I see Raymarine also has a chirp black box.I know there is a new 585 on the way.I have been told here it will NOT be chirp.I want to upgrade from my 585 with a b260.I just do not know when to do it,and when and if something new and better is comming out.
Thank you

Response:
Yes, we have a machine waiting in the wings and hopefully we will be testing the final version really soon.

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Originally Posted by gdfisher View Post

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Yes, we have a machine waiting in the wings and hopefully we will be testing the final version really soon.

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Boy, did I have to pull a few strings to get this shot for you guys!
This is an undercover photo of the prototype Furuno CHIRP being assembled at a secret location.


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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
Boy, did I have to pull a few strings to get this shot for you guys!
This is an undercover photo of the new Furuno CHIRP being assembled at a secret location.



Very Good.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:35 AM
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Thanks for the responses men. And thanlks again Gil.

The question was raised what system garmin, simrad or raymarine?

Opinion on this?

Thanks Matt

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would the nse nav-bundle still have the built in sonar module or am I mistaken,sorry for the hi-jack
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:02 PM
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NSE's don't have built-in sonar modules, only the NSS. The NSE Fishing Pack comes with a seperate balck box for the sonar.
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NSS7 & 8 have build in sonar. NSS12 and NSE don't.
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