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Old 02-12-2012, 04:51 PM
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Just got a sonic hub. The flush mount speakers don't exactly fit on the center console. A vent on the port side would be eliminated. I may install them on the rear of the console facing aft. Any thoughts?
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If they fit there, fine

The best spot on a cc is in the sides, at the helm firing at your knees....

2nd best is in the sides of the console firing at the sides and bouncing back

Here or here:
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Thanks Glen!
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Does your boat have a T-Top with a radio box. If so you may want to consider sides or bottom of the radio box.
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Does your boat have a T-Top with a radio box. If so you may want to consider sides or bottom of the radio box.
respectfully disagree....

If at all possible keep them low and in the boat

1. better bass/ sound
2. don't rot out as fast
3. don't "entertain the air", use less power
4. don't takeup valuable flat space for other electronics

A quality installer will never put them high if he has a chance to go low....IMO
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I put mine in the console. They sound great for just two speakers.
Make sure you buy the right type. Some are made for large enclosures and others are made for tight enclosures.
I bought the JL's for open areas, and the sound is great. Good bass response.
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Originally Posted by Glen E View Post
respectfully disagree....

If at all possible keep them low and in the boat

1. better bass/ sound
2. don't rot out as fast
3. don't "entertain the air", use less power
4. don't takeup valuable flat space for other electronics

A quality installer will never put them high if he has a chance to go low....IMO
Totally agee, I could not put mine in the sides because they are solid foam injected filled, no way to wire them at all. Here is port side JL M650 in the console, down low, close to floor, just above the 4" "toe-kick" of the console. The music and bass "stays in the boat" basically - keep the sound out of the air stream, and it enhances bass. I was on the exact same boat where JL's were mounted high close to the fresh water washdown stainless steel cover you see in the pic. and above the top of the gunwale = BAD - NO comparison once the boat is underway, and even at rest, the lower placement yields more and better/tighter bass.

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Jon was your toe kick accessible from the inside? I would have to cut a hole to get from the inside of the console to the space where you mounted the speakers and then cut the mounting hole. How did you do it?

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Jon, also what size speaker? I am afraid that my six inch speaker size may not fit because of the rod holders. What do you think?
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[quote=jon in florida;4362590]Totally agee, I could not put mine in the sides because they are solid foam injected filled, no way to wire them at all. Here is port side JL M650 in the console, down low, close to floor, just above the 4" "toe-kick" of the console. The music and bass "stays in the boat" basically - keep the sound out of the air stream, and it enhances bass. I was on the exact same boat where JL's were mounted high close to the fresh water washdown stainless steel cover you see in the pic. and above the top of the gunwale = BAD - NO comparison once the boat is underway, and even at rest, the lower placement yields more and better/tighter bass.



I'd say it depends on what your looking for. Do you want to hear the music while running, at drift, or far from the boat while parked on the beach.

I had mine in an identical location on a Mckee 22 Freedom and the boat rocked with only a couple 6.5" JL's. It would blow your ears out while on the boat and the bass was amazing. I was shocked a pair of speakers would sound so good. The only prob was you couldnt hear it from very far away. Kept the sound inside the boat. Where it should be IMO. Low and pointing out IMO is best.
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Just measured again and on my triton the is not enough depth and width to put them in that ideal place. I considered on the aft side of the console. Where else do you think? I have 4 rod holders so it's tight. I suppose I could pull and cover one and have three. What would I cover the hole with? Hmm. New problems to solve...... Thanks for your ideas.
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Jon was your toe kick accessible from the inside? I would have to cut a hole to get from the inside of the console to the space where you mounted the speakers and then cut the mounting hole. How did you do it?

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Richard, sorry did not see your question. They are M650's (not MX650) and the cut-out was from the outside. I did several measurements, and I swear I did not have the room/depth either. Don't know about the Triton, I called the Ranger factory, and that is exactly where they told me they located 6.5" speakers. So I centered it on the rod holders and cut away. On mine that is basically a second outside wall, an over hang bumped out. In other words if I reach my hand under the speaker from the outside deck I would be touching the back of the speaker. I have 4" from the deck to the bottom of that rod holder wall edge. Keep in mind your cut out is 5" not 6.5" and the speaker narrows as it goes backwards towards the magnet of the speaker basket. I did not think I had room, but kind of an optical illusion, once in there I have quite some room to spare between rod holders and depth. Keep in mind the inner depth is only 2.95" - less than 3" and again it narrows. Once in there I was thinking maybe 7.7's would have gone, but the (4) M650's and a 10" bridged JL sub more than rock a 2410 bay model. Here is JL's link to exact size requirements. What is the model/year of your Triton?

http://www.jlaudio.com/marine-audio-...5-inch-systems
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Just measured again and on my triton the is not enough depth and width to put them in that ideal place. I considered on the aft side of the console. Where else do you think? I have 4 rod holders so it's tight. I suppose I could pull and cover one and have three. What would I cover the hole with? Hmm. New problems to solve...... Thanks for your ideas.
If you did pull a rod holder to get the room, don't try to cover the hole, cut the r/h shorter, and re-install the top bezel. Possible drink holder? The aft console is not a bad location.
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I'll give I a try. Jon, I have a 2009 Triton 240 LTS. I see what you mean by the top of rod holder would have to be reused. I'll have figure out how to keep water from draining on the speaker I suppose.

Thanks for all the advice. I'll post back and let you know how it went!
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Another vote for keep them out of the radio box. When I bought my boat that's where they were. One was blown and the other didn't sound very good. I bought a new set of 1/2 way decent 6 1/2" Sony's. They still don't sound as good as they should. I will probably relocated them to low on the sides of my console. Not sure what I would do about the big holes though, maybe I will just add 2 more spkrs.


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Another vote for keep them out of the radio box. When I bought my boat that's where they were. One was blown and the other didn't sound very good. I bought a new set of 1/2 way decent 6 1/2" Sony's. They still don't sound as good as they should. I will probably relocated them to low on the sides of my console. Not sure what I would do about the big holes though, maybe I will just add 2 more spkrs.
Coluld go in there with 2 screw in deck plates/access plates. If it were me, I would put speakers back in there and wire them up so you can fade them. If you at anchor or on the bar have them playing for more open sound, under way run the lower speakers or blend/fade them at the best sound combination.
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Originally Posted by Glen E View Post
If they fit there, fine

The best spot on a cc is in the sides, at the helm firing at your knees....

2nd best is in the sides of the console firing at the sides and bouncing back

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Glen,
just to be precise, when you say "at the helm firing at your knees" do you mean aft of the console, in-line with where I'm standing when I drive? The picture you include seems to have them quite a bit forward of that. Or am I splitting hairs now?

I see people talking about trying to bounce them around through the boat, but to avoid facing them right at each other. Seems "at the helm firing at your knees" puts them firing right at each other, with only some of the sound being blocked by console, leaning post, and at the helm.

Sorry to be anally retentive... I just don't want to cut a hole and then wish I had cut it 1 foot fore/aft.
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yes you are splitting hairs.....obviously put them where it is not difficult to mount....with the wind and the water, you are not going for critical listening anyway...
either firing out:

or on my boat - firing in....
my fronts (the most worthless)

rear - actually more important than you think...for depth

my helm - the most important
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Mine are mounted in 2 inspection plates. If you have any ,might consider. No extra holes. Jon in florida inspection plates would be simple for covering old speaker holes as well.
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Got my SonicHub speakers and hardware installed. I located the speakers in the best place I could base on the advice for you all. Thanks.a lot.

But the sonichub played my iPhone and USBflash drive garballed or with a lot of static and skipping. After 4 phone calls and much discussion with Lowrance, it was decided that the unit was defective. I have to send it back and wait up to 20 business days for repair or replacement.
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