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Old 02-08-2012, 02:27 PM
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24 foot Sea Hunt center console in desperate need of a stereo upgrade. Has a $100 system now (crappy DUAL head unit + 2 worthless speakers).

I've been researching lately and realize I know just enough to realize how much I don't know... I'm bound to make a mistake or waste money if I start picking out high end components myself.

Unsure whether I should try to get everything now (would require mid range components at my budget), or if I'm better off acquiring it in phases (head unit plus speakers now... amp later... amp plus sub after that) using higher-quality equipment.

Keep in mind when I bought a boat, I bought a used sea hunt and not a new jupiter/intrepid/etc. I'm looking for a similar value (expense vs. quality) in my stereo system... but am extremely disappointed in the bare bones system I have now (horrible sound even at anchor... nothing when running).

Can I do a head unit, amp, 4-6 speakers, and a sub (and does that always require its own separate amp) for anywhere near my budget?
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:53 PM
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24 foot Sea Hunt center console in desperate need of a stereo upgrade. Has a $100 system now (crappy DUAL head unit + 2 worthless speakers).

I've been researching lately and realize I know just enough to realize how much I don't know... I'm bound to make a mistake or waste money if I start picking out high end components myself.

Unsure whether I should try to get everything now (would require mid range components at my budget), or if I'm better off acquiring it in phases (head unit plus speakers now... amp later... amp plus sub after that) using higher-quality equipment.

Keep in mind when I bought a boat, I bought a used sea hunt and not a new jupiter/intrepid/etc. I'm looking for a similar value (expense vs. quality) in my stereo system... but am extremely disappointed in the bare bones system I have now (horrible sound even at anchor... nothing when running).

Can I do a head unit, amp, 4-6 speakers, and a sub (and does that always require its own separate amp) for anywhere near my budget?
A couple of questions....Are your current speakers 6.5" diameter? You must pick 4 or 6 channel, then I could give you some sugguestions. 4 channel will save you some coin. Also...Do you use the head unit for CD's or IPOD or MP3 (or all)? I think you're looking closer to the $750.00 range. Do you really need a sub? I have never been a fan of a sub myself, but that's just me.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:01 PM
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Ok, here is what i did in my sea hunt 232 and even my friends with other systems say my system sounds incredible especially for a boat.


Sony CDX-M60UI...found online shipped new for $150

Alpine SPS-M600....6.5" on either side of the seat in front of the center console...found online shipped new for $70(pair)

Alpine Type-R SPR-M700..7" in the gunwhales even with the driver seat...found online shipped new for $110(pair)

I actually bought a Alpine Type-R SWR-M100 Marine subwoofer, but after putting in the 6.5's and 7's i DIDN"T need it.

I can run at speed and everybody in the boat can easily here the words of any song, i was impressed when i finished. The sony head unit allows for my iphone to plug in via usb so the head unit actually controls the ipod.

Then i ran a Sony Wired Marine Remote Control - RM-X60M/L...shipped new for $75.

My head unit is in electronics box in t-top, so the remote allows me to control radio and ipod from the center console dash.

I love this setup and would do it again in a heartbeat, especially for the money...$405 for everything shipped to my door!

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Old 02-08-2012, 03:18 PM
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Here is a quick set up for you in the 4-channel scenario (no sub) With 4 decent speakers, you really can rock w/o a sub unless you're really young & you want to impress the girls. This is assuming you have 6.5" cut-outs. If you can go 7" or even 8" let me know. Apline & Pioneer rock for short coin & they are excellent speakers for the coin. Not JL Audio or Rockford Fosgate quality, but soild just the same & they hold-up over time.

HU: Clarion CMD7 @ $199.99

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...rion-CMD7.html

4-Channel Amp: Clarion XN3410 @ $209.99

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...on-XN3410.html

6.5" Speakers: Alpine SPS-M600 @ $64.99 x2=$129.98

BTW...Sonicelectronix.com is free shipping w/ no tax. They rock! Bought most of my stereo stuff there & it all came-in double boxed. Great company to deal with.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...-SPS-M600.html

6.5 Speakers: Pioneer TS-MR1640 @ $64.99 x2=$129.98

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...TS-MR1640.html

I like Pioneer myself. They sound outstanding for the money & they can handle decent WPC vs. the Alpine's. Pioneer Marine Speakers have been around for many, many years & there are plenty of happy end-users out there.
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my current speakers are 6.5 but I am:
- considering leaving them (now essentially access hatches) because I don't like the location and mounting my new speakers in better locations.
- open to enlarging the holes

I think I will never use anything but an ipod/iphone as my music source.
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[QUOTE=JoshKaptur;4348755]my current speakers are 6.5 but I am:
- considering leaving them (now essentially access hatches) because I don't like the location and mounting my new speakers in better locations.
- open to enlarging the holes

I think I will never use anything but an ipod/iphone as my music source.[/QUOT

Josh: You just said you wanted to unload your current crappy speakers! Now you don't? WTF? I'm glad a wasted 10 minutes of my life trying to point you in the right direction. Pound sand!
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With this in mind I agree with Pulling Out on the Sony head/remote combo for under $250. I am currently running that with plans to install an amp and sub but it sounds really good now through my 7.7" JL's. I have used it with my iPhone for iPod functionality as well as streaming and it really sounds good. For that price you will have some decent options for speakers.

Originally Posted by JoshKaptur View Post
my current speakers are 6.5 but I am:
- considering leaving them (now essentially access hatches) because I don't like the location and mounting my new speakers in better locations.
- open to enlarging the holes

I think I will never use anything but an ipod/iphone as my music source.
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I think I will never use anything but an ipod/iphone as my music source.

If this is the case I would go for the best sound possible and completely blow off the head unit and hook the ipod straight into an amp

takes 3 things:
1. JL or clarion amp n
2. 1 set of Mx650 speakers - or enlarge hole and run M770 coaxials
3. RCA to headphone jack cable for iphone/pod

charge the phone at night or use a cig lighter cord and yes, for your size boat going thru the headphone jack will be fine, the boat audiophiles rail against this, but I do it all the time and it sounds fine on a small boat.

I have done this for many boats over the last 10 years - email me for an MS doc with more details...
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[quote=Magnolia Sun;4348777]
Originally Posted by JoshKaptur View Post
my current speakers are 6.5 but I am:
- considering leaving them (now essentially access hatches) because I don't like the location and mounting my new speakers in better locations.
- open to enlarging the holes

I think I will never use anything but an ipod/iphone as my music source.[/QUOT

Josh: You just said you wanted to unload your current crappy speakers! Now you don't? WTF? I'm glad a wasted 10 minutes of my life trying to point you in the right direction. Pound sand!
I think we've crossed wires. I want a new stereo and new speakers... I'm just saying that speaker size (based on the old holes) is not a factor in my purchase... I might just leave the old ones there (but not hooked up to the stereo or amp), or I might put new ones the same size in their place, or I might enlarge the holes if that's what people recommend.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:23 PM
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Use existing holes. If u put power to the speakers it'll be loud enough even if not prime location.
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Originally Posted by JoshKaptur View Post
24 foot Sea Hunt center console in desperate need of a stereo upgrade. Has a $100 system now (crappy DUAL head unit + 2 worthless speakers).

I've been researching lately and realize I know just enough to realize how much I don't know... I'm bound to make a mistake or waste money if I start picking out high end components myself.

Unsure whether I should try to get everything now (would require mid range components at my budget), or if I'm better off acquiring it in phases (head unit plus speakers now... amp later... amp plus sub after that) using higher-quality equipment.

Keep in mind when I bought a boat, I bought a used sea hunt and not a new jupiter/intrepid/etc. I'm looking for a similar value (expense vs. quality) in my stereo system... but am extremely disappointed in the bare bones system I have now (horrible sound even at anchor... nothing when running).

Can I do a head unit, amp, 4-6 speakers, and a sub (and does that always require its own separate amp) for anywhere near my budget?
Go Fusion. For everything! Fushion ipod headunit (IP 600), three pairs of 7" speakers (FR 702), and an inline amp to power the 3rd pair of speakers (AM702). No sub. I am pretty sure Jim at BOE can sell you that stuff, and a wiring kit with inline fuses, speaker wire, and connectors, for under $750.
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Okay, here's what I'm thinking (sorry I wrote this while the "go fusion" post above was being written... don't mean to seem to disregard)...

Iphone wired directly to amp, at least for now, per Glen E suggestions.
Amp: JL M700/5 (~$400)
Speakers: (2) JL M650 (~$230)

When all wiring and such is purchased, I get out the door for under $700 and have a more than adequate system. But one that can be upgraded with a second set of speakers, and a sub, in the future.

Any problem with this? Is this more speaker than this 600w amp wants anyway?

Would I be happier now if I spring for (4) MX650s than the single pair of M650s?

Is there anything I need to know about mix-and-matching speakers (some combination of pairs of M650, MX650, or M770) off this amp?

Am I wasting my money on the higher end amp and speakers if I don't get a head unit?

Sorry for the stupid questions, and again... my apologies for any lack of clarity in my previous posts.
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Originally Posted by Magnolia Sun View Post
Here is a quick set up for you in the 4-channel scenario (no sub) With 4 decent speakers, you really can rock w/o a sub unless you're really young & you want to impress the girls. This is assuming you have 6.5" cut-outs. If you can go 7" or even 8" let me know. Apline & Pioneer rock for short coin & they are excellent speakers for the coin. Not JL Audio or Rockford Fosgate quality, but soild just the same & they hold-up over time.

HU: Clarion CMD7 @ $199.99

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...rion-CMD7.html

4-Channel Amp: Clarion XN3410 @ $209.99

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...on-XN3410.html

6.5" Speakers: Alpine SPS-M600 @ $64.99 x2=$129.98

BTW...Sonicelectronix.com is free shipping w/ no tax. They rock! Bought most of my stereo stuff there & it all came-in double boxed. Great company to deal with.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...-SPS-M600.html

6.5 Speakers: Pioneer TS-MR1640 @ $64.99 x2=$129.98

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...TS-MR1640.html

I like Pioneer myself. They sound outstanding for the money & they can handle decent WPC vs. the Alpine's. Pioneer Marine Speakers have been around for many, many years & there are plenty of happy end-users out there.
I agree sonic is real good on price, just got my JL audio sub there . Here is a GREAT price for the above mentioned Clarion head unit. I just ordered it the other day. No tax and free shipping. I have this with a Alpine PDX 1.400 4 channal amp, (4) JL M650's and a 10" JL audio sub powered by bridging channals 3&4 and it absolutly rocks my Ranger 2410 bay boat.

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Buying highend stuff a few pieces at a time is a great long term smart solution. And the straight to amp idea works for a lot of people. If you hook up the system and your ear is so critical that it sounds bad, then add the head unit. Buying an amp that can accommodate more speakers and a sub gives you time to buy the good stuff and end up down the road with a state of the art system. Too many people try and divide up their current budget around components to "have it all " right now, and end up compromising....no need to do that.......
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