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Old 09-22-2011, 03:24 PM
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Default Garmin 5212, 6212, 7212 - I can't decide

Hoping someone out there can give me a reality check. I really want the 7212 because it is the newest one in this line up and when it comes to electronics I always like to buy at the high-end and forget about it. But $5k is tough to swallow.

Should I just go with the 5212 or 6212? Or is the 7212 just so freaking awesome I'll regret not going with the newest model?

I'm severely torn and there aren't any around here I can play with so I'm buying blind practically. If I could put them side by side and play with them in a store I could decide but I can't.

What's the hard facts from those of you that have used or played with both?
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:30 PM
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I suggest you contact Jim at BOE. he is a supplier and has decent prices. His service and help is second to none. He is a THT vendor.
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:39 PM
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All are good units. Personally, I went with the 4212 when I redid electronics this past spring.

Why did I go 4212 and not something better? Price. The 4212 is relatively inexpensive (I paid $1799 after the $200 rebate from Garmin) and I got a 12" color plotter thats sounder/radar capable.

Would I have liked touch screen or the new zero redraw? Absolutely. Did I want to drop $4-5k? Nope.
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I'm on a boat has a good point. I had the 4212 on the old boat and it was good. The 62 and 72 are much faster units but a lot more expensive as well. If you have the coin to drop go get one. If you don't the 42 is a good option or the 52. Just need to decide touchscreen or not. I don't really like the touchscreen but its a preference.
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:57 PM
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I just recently made the same decision. I bought the 4212. Does everything I could possibly want and is relatively inexpensive.

I learned long ago that you're only going to get 5 years out of marine electronics on average. Its just not cost effective chasing the biggest, fastest, etc because next year its going to be NOT!

A 12 inch unit is going to be huge on your boat. I installed my 4212 on my 26 GW CC and its bigger than I need. It replaced a Sitex Colormax 11.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:28 PM
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I went with the 7212 and I am very happy with it. I wanted the touch screen and didn't want to be frustrated by a slow redraw rate. The touch screen might be a pain once the cold weather sets in, but I only fish into mid November.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:43 PM
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Btw, the 6xxx is the latest design btw. It was introduced alongside the 7xxx series.

Sooner or later Garmin will end of ife the cureent 4xxx/5xxx models. They will either need a mid life kicker or just shut it down completely.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:47 PM
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Some say that the 52 is much slower than the 62/7200, but I got a 5200 this year and have no issues with speed. I'm happy.
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If you are going to spend the dough for a 6xxx or 7xxx, and only have room for one display you will probably be happier with Furuno.

If you have room, I would take 2 4208's or 2 4210's over a single anything, which is why I ended up with two 4210's.

If price is everything and you only can have one, a 5212 is a great value.

I do not hate Garmin. I have two 4210's, GSD22, GHP10, weather, etc. The stuff has been reliable and has acceptable performance. If you are a bottom fishing expert you will probably be disappointed by the Garmin sounder.
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Palmer View Post
Some say that the 52 is much slower than the 62/7200, but I got a 5200 this year and have no issues with speed. I'm happy.
Speed is relative. I have a 4212 and have no issues with its redraw while running. I do get frustrated some times when zooming/panning. But I get impatient with computers when they move slower than I can. It eventually catches up, and I move on.

I can say that if I used the boat everyday, and always went someplace different, it would really bug me. But the way I use it now I don't have to do that much panning or radical zooming.
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There are a few things to consider between the 5212 and the 7212:

1. Price: If you have the extra money in your pocket, get the latest and greatest for the reasons below. If you don't have the extra cash, no biggie, get the 5000. Another thing to consider here is re-sale value. If you plan to sell the boat someday OR sell the electronics, the 7000 would have a higher value since it's newer/up to date... Remember, the cost should be spread across the life of the boat. If you plan on keeping the boat 10 years, and the cost difference is 2k, then the cost is only $200 per year extra for the newwer unit. That's how I always look at it, instead of looking at the $2k in one chunk.

2. Full screen video: If you plan on putting video into the unit (Camera, SatTV, DVD player...), the 5000 does not display the video on the full screen of the display. The 7000 upscales the video so it is displayed full screen. Nice feature you may or may not need.

3. Speed: The 7000 is faster. A nice feature, but I've had the 5215 for 4 years now, and have no issues with it's speed. It works just fine as is. Would I like the faster 7000? Sure, but I would not replace it for that alone.

4. Support and updates: The 5000 series is out now for 4 or 5 years. It's likely getting near it's end of the line. Garmin is great at supporting their products, so I'm sure they will continue to support them, but eventially software updates will be done, so you won't get anymore new features or changes to the interface. Not that big a deal because right now the 5000 is pretty close to being perfect. I just wish they would fix/change the way the data boxes work. But, who knows what will they will do and/or add to the 7000 series via updates, new chips, new 3D views....?


All that said, if I were outfitting a boat today, I would install the 7000, hands down.

Hope that helps.
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Old 09-23-2011, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Palmer View Post
Some say that the 52 is much slower than the 62/7200, but I got a 5200 this year and have no issues with speed. I'm happy.
This is my only fear with the 5212. I watched some videos on Youtube trying to compare them and the 5212 isn't very smooth, I think it would just bug me to death (espeically being a computer guy).

And then like someone else pointed out about it being end of life almost and then being forced to upgrade because it isn't fast enough to support new updates or features that get released.

Right now I'm leaning to the 7212 after watching the videos.

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If the money is there, but not burning a hole, I would limit the decision to the life expectancy of the unit. Not it's life, but the time it will take Garmin to come out with something more irresistable! There are twenty year old Garmins out here still cranking out good data. There are 2010s out here working just fine, thankyou. In order to put their kids thru dentures and college, manufacturers are having to come up with forever newer, better, faster, sexier stuff. They are competing with their own products!
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Old 09-23-2011, 01:52 PM
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Keith,
The 5000 series does not have any "smoothness" issues. It's as smooth as can be. The place where speed is affected, is things like when you bring up a weather page, and the systme needs to draw the entire map of NA (cause you are zoomed way out to check the weather) , and it takes a few seconeds to draw the map/chart, then overlay the cloud cover, then overlay the storm info and radar, and then take all that and loop it to show you the last 20 minutes ..... other than that, the speed is fine.
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Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
Keith,
The 5000 series does not have any "smoothness" issues. It's as smooth as can be. The place where speed is affected, is things like when you bring up a weather page, and the systme needs to draw the entire map of NA (cause you are zoomed way out to check the weather) , and it takes a few seconeds to draw the map/chart, then overlay the cloud cover, then overlay the storm info and radar, and then take all that and loop it to show you the last 20 minutes ..... other than that, the speed is fine.
That's kinda what I meant by being smooth, the redraw times. Good to know you don't find it slow though.
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The one thing not addressed from your original post. The 6212 and 7212 are the same ineternals, meaning same speed and functions; the 6212 (like the 4212, which is the same as the 5212) lacks touch screen, which is why it is $1,200 cheaper.
I would definately go with the 6212 or 7212 if money is no object.
I'd love to update my two 4212's to two 6212's, but they are a little to big (they are about 2" deeper than the 4212's) to fit in my helm.
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The screen sizes are the same between the 42/62 and the 52/72 but I think the external dimensions of the 52/72 touch screens is smaller because of the space taken up by the buttons. The touch screen is the way to go especially when you want to key in text and numbers. A full keyboard shows on the screen. I have a 5212 and the redraw speed is plenty fast and smooth.

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Just to make things official I placed the order for the 7212 and a bunch of other stuff with a local vendor.

I've seen some of their installations and they really pay attention to detail and do a lot of custom work. They are going to totally customize the console to make it all work nicely. I'll post some before and after pics. Hope to have it all in by weekend or first of next week depending on shipping.
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nice, good luck!!!!
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Good decision you will be happy. Buying local with installation is most always the best way to go. If there is a problem they should be there to help you.
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