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Old 09-06-2011, 05:44 AM
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Hi folks this is my first post and this site is the best and contains a wealth of info! I had a really close call on the Bay Sat. night with a bunch of plastered boys and girls on a crab with no lights. Got my attention fast so I'm going to suck it up and buy a rader rig for my 21' cc. I don't run that much at night but after that experience better safe than sorry. I was wondering if you all could sugget radar packages. I don't want to replace my current GPS so I'm looking at units with a display just for radar. Also, I don't have a load of space on my helm. Any advice is much appreciated.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:21 AM
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Will your current GPS support a radar or will you have to go with a stand-alone unit?
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:23 AM
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I'm on the same path.

Last Wednesday had a guy in the intra-coastal with one nav light out with 10 rowdies aboard that made me change course quickly. Not going fast, but still was an eye opener.

At the moment, my lowrance will accept radar, but the screen is a bit small and the radar would be "old school" not current broadband radar. The main upgrade of the new broadband (3G) radar is:
-Instant on
-Less radiation
-better close range resolution (at the expense of long rang a bit, but I'm trying to avoid collisions, not find find birds over fish at 10 miles)

I'm looking at buying a Lowrance HDS8 and their 3G radome.
Here's why:
-I already have a feel for how the lowrance works and I'm confident in it's abilities.
-The boat is already wired for it (network and sensors)
-Good local dealer with support
-I just bough have a navionics map chip so I can use that in it.
-It's affordable
-I can add a sonic hub down the road
-Its sirius weather compatible which is something I'd like to add.

Hopefully that helps a bit...

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Old 09-06-2011, 06:36 AM
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Many thanks guys. I'm keen on a stand alone package. My Garmin GPS will interface with radar but the screen is small and I don't want to toggle between screens. CMS your comments are a big help and make total sense. I was reading about this furuno unit and like you CMS I'm just looking for other boats at night.
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:49 AM
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That's a pretty good deal for a stand alone unit. I don't have the display real estate on my CC for that approach, but if you do, have at it.

That's "old school" radar so it will take about 60-90 seconds to warm up, and will require a bit of tuning once it's installed, but I can't see either of those details being a deal breaker.

Best of luck, report back on your findings/results once you've got it all set up.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:03 PM
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I've got the BR24 which probably paid for itself July 4th after the bay fireworks were over. Maybe I wouldn't have been out without the radar but anyway, afterward everyone was ...maybe not racing... but headed back to area ramps fairly quickly. It was the 1st time out relying on the radar as the primary source for guidance beyond everyone's nav lights. Night vision wasn't so good due to so many shore lights in the area.

As I rounded the last stretch to the bayou where we were parked, an image showed up on my radar. Not unexpected but there were no nav lights matching the radar screen. So I slowed down enough to avoid whatever it was... and could not believe that it was a pontoon boat directly in the main channel without a light one! As I passed him, another big CC screamed past without slowing down; then another came by nearly as fast but suddenly shut down and turned and went back to where the pontoon boat was. I don't know if he clipped that boat or just needed a change of pants.... but they were no doubt close.

IMHO, if radar is a possibility AT ALL, then get it! I use it in tandem with 2 HDS 8's. I have one with overlay on the chart and can't say enough good about it. Even when conditions are perfect, it's a great way to see traffic well in advance and even tell which way they're headed.
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Radar images of the "Fireworks Fleet"?? Here ya go, shoulda looked like these:

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Old 09-10-2011, 05:39 AM
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Damn that is good stuff and I bet it was even better when the show was done and the fleet was heading back to the docks. Many thanks for the info.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:10 AM
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Hi folks many thanks for the suggestions and damn I'm thinking If I do this I need to do it right. I've been reading a ton of literature on this site and have an idea of what I'm looking to do. I've trashed the idea of a stand alone radar and want to upgrade all of my electronics. Wife has been on me to get the XM package etc. Not sure about the sounder but would like an all in one package. I've attached pics of my busy helm on my cc. Budget is not an issue and I just want to do this right and your suggestions are more than much appreciated. When I say budget I don't mean I want to spend 100+K on a new boat
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-I run enough at night that I want a good radar.
-All the new electronics are great but I'm keen on Garmin.
-GPSMAP 740s
-GMR 18 HD
-GXM 51
-Thinking of having nauticlcreations make a custom mount for the radar, GXM51, and spotlight for my tee top similar to this one.
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I think I'd put a electronics box under the T-top and move the fishfinder, vhf, and stereo up there and flush mount a 10 inch plotter/ radar screen in the console in their place.
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QAnother option is to lose the old analog guages. Your two biggest guages are speed and rpm's. You could combine those in a single digital readout in a fraction of the space.

Can't see the other three but you could reduce them as well. Use the added space for another display.
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