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Old 08-23-2011, 01:34 PM
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Default Garmin 4212 or Lowrance HDS 10

What would you choose and why?
Old 08-23-2011, 02:37 PM
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If fishing is important you should go for HDS, much better fishfinder and the possibility to add StructureScan.
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I own the HDS 10 with SS and love it, but it is not as user friendly as the Garmin. I like the chart better on Garmin (I also have the insight model) but the sonar/ss is better on my HDS. Both are great units, so either would be a good choice.
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I know nothing of the Garmin units, so all I can tell you is how happy I am with my HDS units. Absolutely the clearest sonar (2D) with great target marking ability. On my boat the sonar is good to speeds of about 10-12 mph. Super fast redraw of the trails with the external LGC-4000 module, but before that addition I was more than satisfied with the internal LGC-3000 module, and great mapping choices. Been using for more than 2 years and have yet to have any problems with my Lowrance gear. I'll be adding the LSS-1 Side Scan and Bottom Scan module soon. Lots of customization abilities for personalized use, and quick keys for super fast screen layout changing. And Lowrance customer service is far superior to it's reputation of a few years back. Great products, easy to add on with plug-n-play ability, and a 2 year man. warranty.

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:33 AM
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The HDS sonar is superior to Garmin and has side scanning ability too which you cant get with Garmin.
The Garmin gps user interface is more intuitive and set up better than the HDS.
The HDS screen is nearly bullet proof. Clean it with amonia if you want no problem.
THe Garmin screen is highly likely to experience a failure of the reflective coating no matter how careful you are with it. I had to send mine back at 3 times over the years.

With the latest software the HDS and Garmin operate at approx the same speed.

Its all a trade off. I prefer the Garmin GPS but hate the Garmin screens so much so I switched away from them a few years ago. Still no idea why they still have not fixed this ubiquitous problem with their units.
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Egret: I assume you tried a screen protector...failed despite this?

I have to say there are a couple things I like about the Lowrance

1. Internal GPS antenna
2. No separate sounder box

I was reading about the G2 Vision and found somewhat mixed reviews. I havent been able to find a good comparison of G2 Vision vs. Navionics Plat+.
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I have owned both Lowrance and Garmin--Garmin is easiest to use, and probably has slightly better charts (but locked into Garmin). Lowrance is far better with the sounder--and if you have any problems have had more service issues. I have not had Lowrance problems, except one GPS antenna in the 2000 series.
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The HDS unit also outshines the Garmin with a Navionics Platinum+ card IMO, especially if Google Earth detail is needed for backwater areas. Go play with them at a marine electronics shop and decide for yourself. I also found better detail with the Lowrance, in my case 2 navigable boat cuts in rock jetties clearly seen on the HDS unit, but the Garmin did not show them.
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Originally Posted by skeeter77346 View Post
The HDS unit also outshines the Garmin with a Navionics Platinum+ card IMO, especially if Google Earth detail is needed for backwater areas. Go play with them at a marine electronics shop and decide for yourself. I also found better detail with the Lowrance, in my case 2 navigable boat cuts in rock jetties clearly seen on the HDS unit, but the Garmin did not show them.
garmin bluechart g2 vision cards are alot better then platinum+ cards.....g2 vision gives you the ability to go underwater and look from a fishes point of view and a 3d view from above to.
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Originally Posted by wandoboater123 View Post
garmin bluechart g2 vision cards are alot better then platinum+ cards.....g2 vision gives you the ability to go underwater and look from a fishes point of view and a 3d view from above to.
Maybe, but the navioinics chips are more accurate than the Garmin's. At least they are along the CT side of LIS.
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Originally Posted by wandoboater123 View Post
garmin bluechart g2 vision cards are alot better then platinum+ cards.....g2 vision gives you the ability to go underwater and look from a fishes point of view and a 3d view from above to.
Any screen shots of this 'underwater fish-eye view'?

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Originally Posted by Edd View Post
Any screen shots of this 'underwater fish-eye view'?

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my boat with the garmin is up at my summer house in jersey, i can find a picture online though
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Oh, a forwarding looking underwater 3D simulation shot. On a chart, how does this help? Or is this what we routinely refer to as a 'Guest shot'?

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Oh, a forwarding looking underwater 3D simulation shot. On a chart, how does this help? Or is this what we routinely refer to as a 'Guest shot'?

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if you are bottom fishing looking at the structure.
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Originally Posted by wandoboater123 View Post
if you are bottom fishing looking at the structure.
Wouldn't it be much more accurate for you to use 'real time' sonar for this information? Rather than something that was charted maybe 5 years ago? Something like Lowrance's Structure Scan would offer more accurate information on what structure is below the boat.

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Yeah, I don't see how that screen grab would help improve my fishing. All the Garmin machines on boats in my area can't seem to locate the reefs correctly in my area. The navionics chips are quite accurate, the fish n chip is fantastic - and like mentioned above the side scan is dead on. With side scan you can pick individual boulders to fish on the big reefs for striped bass.

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