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Old 04-21-2003, 09:19 PM
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I am told there is no difference, I am also told Bluechart blows the C Map away. Someone else told me the C Map has just as much detail as the Bluechart.

I am really stuck here. Do I go Garmin or C Map for charting?
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Old 04-22-2003, 04:23 AM
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Old 04-22-2003, 04:23 AM
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Old 04-22-2003, 04:23 AM
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Old 04-22-2003, 05:14 AM
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I agree with Sea_Dad, I have both. I tend to like Garmin better which I use on a handheld, a Garmin GPSMAP 76s. I like loading information into the computer from the BlueChard CD: pick the areas I want, then upload into handheld. I can also upload MetroGuide USA. I can store 23MB of info, which is a lot. With the C-Chart I must decide on what area I want and buy the chart for the area. Great detail on both. You could make a case for both, depending on area.

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Old 04-22-2003, 06:39 AM
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There is some good discussion about losing detail with C-map when zooming in the “RayMarine with C-Map issues” thread. I have used a C-map NT for the last 4 years in a Hummingbird NS-25 and have the same problem. When coming into the jetties it shows them at scale where they are only about 1/4" apart on the screen. The next level of zoom loses them and a lot of other detail. Since the government turned off the variance scrambling a few years ago, the accuracy is plenty good enough to keep me from running into the jetties at night, but it would be a whole lot easier, if I could zoom in further. Trying to steer a little boat icon between two lines only 1/4" apart is a nerve racking experience.

I zoom in on a Garmin bluechart at a boater’s store and the jetties stayed on the detail all the way.

Our local West Marine is supposed to get the latest C-map NT this week for my area. I plan to compare them side-by-side.
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Old 04-22-2003, 10:14 AM
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quote:Originally posted by donmoore:
There is some good discussion about losing detail with C-map when zooming in the “RayMarine with C-Map issues” thread. I have used a C-map NT for the last 4 years in a Hummingbird NS-25 and have the same problem. When coming into the jetties it shows them at scale where they are only about 1/4" apart on the screen. The next level of zoom loses them and a lot of other detail. Since the government turned off the variance scrambling a few years ago, the accuracy is plenty good enough to keep me from running into the jetties at night, but it would be a whole lot easier, if I could zoom in further. Trying to steer a little boat icon between two lines only 1/4" apart is a nerve racking experience.

I zoom in on a Garmin bluechart at a boater’s store and the jetties stayed on the detail all the way.

Our local West Marine is supposed to get the latest C-map NT this week for my area. I plan to compare them side-by-side.
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You guys are all doing something WRONG, bigtime. First, let me tell you I can't stand C-Map because they are a ripoff. BUT, you DO NOT loose any detail on them when zooming. If you do, you software setting are wrong on your plotter or you are using the wrong chart. I can zoom to 1/16th of a mile and see all the detail in the world. That is, using a C-map NT card (not even the plus version which are even better) and a Raymarine chartplotter.

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Birdman, I'll gladly mail you a nickel if you can tell us how to do it correctly.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:12 AM
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OK, I have both, and up till this point I was disapointed with the C-Map NT+ because of what I was seeing (or actually what I was not seeing) on the plotter.

However, it apears that some incorrect settings on my plotter may be be causing the loss of detail, what Birdman calls USER ERROR (I'd prefer to call it a learning curve ). When I get home this evening I will check out the correct settings and let you know what I think.

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here's your nickel (maybe )

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Old 04-22-2003, 04:08 PM
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I've been looking for new electronics all around and can't seem to make up my mind. I have the C-Map already that I used in my Ray 620 but I really didn't like the Ray product. The detail and cartography is perfectly fine when I demo'd it in the Standard CP1000. Very easy to use and plenty clear enough, plus a three year warranty.
Then there's the Garmin 2010c another great unit that is easy to use and the blue chart seems to have the same amount of detail. I can also get the "black box" and have the fishfinder also.

Pound for pound I don't think your going to go wrong no matter which you decide on. I guess maybe it depends on which unit you like the most.
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Old 04-22-2003, 04:47 PM
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I have owned both, and both seemed about the same to me. But, I enjoy being able to look at the blue charts on my computer, add waypoints, make routes, etc then download them to the plotter.
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Sea_Dad...Killing me there at first! "Go with Garmin...Go With C-Map" Grrrr! . But I appreciate the input. I guess Raymarine is deciding for me. That new bundle offer is fantasitc. The RL70CRC Plus, with WAAS, Ray 53 and DSM250 for under 3k! Done deal. I was going for the Garmin 2010c with an SL Series Radar from Raymarine but for this price, I am going for the Raymarine Package. I'll add a refurbished head unit to the hsb2 system as a second station to view radar and I'll split the screen on the first head unit with Chart and FF. That should cover me on my new 28 Triton. Lookout Tuna!
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Old 04-23-2003, 02:47 AM
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markalfieri, yeh I just saw the package deal in a magazine myself. Pretty sweet.

Give everyone some feedback on the fishfinder, it's supposed to be the bomb.
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Old 04-23-2003, 06:22 AM
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I just installed the "Package" on my 35 Bertram. I spent time at the AC Boat Show and Consumers running both Furuno and Ray. The Furuno NavNet was slow and their screen is not as good as Ray in direct sunlight. I played with Navionics and C-Map. I have a Icom CP as back-up running Navionics. For those guys who end up without a chart when zooming; the RayMarine has to have the Plotter Mode turned off. I can't speak for other systems; but you loose no detail on the new Ray stuff. The boat is still on dry land so I can't say if the digital FF is any good. You can not beat the RayMarine Package Deal on price. My Ray 21XX Radar works very good so I am not going for radar now. If I was I would use the Radar/ChartPlotter overlay. I palyed with that capability and it is great for running inlets and other tight places. You can see what is land, boats, bouys ect.
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I just installed the "Package" on my 35 Bertram. I spent time at the AC Boat Show and Consumers running both Furuno and Ray. The Furuno NavNet was slow and their screen is not as good as Ray in direct sunlight. I played with Navionics and C-Map. I have a Icom CP as back-up running Navionics. For those guys who end up without a chart when zooming; the RayMarine has to have the Plotter Mode turned off. I can't speak for other systems; but you loose no detail on the new Ray stuff. The boat is still on dry land so I can't say if the digital FF is any good. You can not beat the RayMarine Package Deal on price. My Ray 21XX Radar works very good so I am not going for radar now. If I was I would use the Radar/ChartPlotter overlay. I palyed with that capability and it is great for running inlets and other tight places. You can see what is land, boats, bouys ect.
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:17 AM
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Ok all,
Since I am in the technolgy world (firewalls and vpns) I have been on the phone with Raymarine asking them every possible question I could think of about this new technology. They have a lot of features built into this puppy that no one else has. Here is the link to the specs. http://www.raymarine.com/raymarine/P...ResourceID=792

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Old 04-25-2003, 09:33 AM
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To get back to the original question, PowerBoat Reports on their recent testing of various Map BPS systems said if you can use BlueChart on your system, you should.

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