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Old 11-02-2010, 05:25 PM
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I have been looking online at 3' steel whip VHF antennas. I found two models of Shakespeare antennas that seem to be almost identical. One is the model 5241-R, the other is a new line called the Shakepeare Mariner 4400. The two antennas seem to be identical, except that the 4400 has a 5 year warranty, and the 5241-R has a 2 year warranty.

Does anyone know about these two antennas and whether one is much better than the other?

I am going to use the antenna on a Boston Whaler Montauk 170, mounted on the side of the center console.

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Forget it. Those 3'ers are terrible compared to the 4'ers. I have one and used it for a couple years, when I swapped it to a full 4'er, my range did much better. Something with the load on them (the base is loaded to make it a full wave antenna) just makes them not work quite as good. I didn't do any real scientific study with it or comparison, but when I removed the whip, and installed the 4'er (both were shakey brand antenn's), the 4'er did MUCH better.


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If you absolutely want a 3' SS, then go with the Metz Manta-6. Otherwise, go with a 4' fiberglass antenna (either the Shake 5400 or the Digital 528).

I too had a 3' SS Shake (the 5241) and it was awful.
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I've always had 8' antennas until I downsized to a skiff. I opted for the Digital 3' model I believe it is the 222. I wasn't expecting much in the way of distance as it is mounted on the top rail of the console. I was really surprised with the performance, several miles transmitting and receiving. A good performer for me.

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This is what I have:
http://www.glomex.it/product_details...ra106slspb6135
life guarantee;

Had no problem so far. Did hit many bridges at cruising speed.

And with much lower gains and 25 watts, your problem will not be the strength of the signal but whether your antenna is high enough to be in the line of sight.

Birdman, are the 3' half wave with a matching device or are they shortened full waves (with matching device)? ;?
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Birdman, are the 3' half wave with a matching device or are they shortened full waves (with matching device)? ;?
Not sure. My guess would be it's actually just a 1/4 wave loaded antenna.
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Unless you have a compelling reason to use a shorter antenna, the best VHF antenna for most power boats that we might own is an eight foot, 6 db gain antenna. The longer antenna focuses more of the signal in a horizontal plane, that is, towards other boats and land stations.
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Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
Something with the load on them (the base is loaded to make it a full wave antenna) just makes them not work quite as good.
Not sure. My guess would be it's actually just a 1/4 wave loaded antenna.
well, a 1/4 would measure half (about 1,5'). A half (3') would not be loaded, but needing a matching device at the base to match the very high impedance.
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Smile 4400 and the METZ

Metz Is Great, but durability is nowhere as good as the Shakespear and the 4400 is a great antenna! They are both 1/2 wave antennas. The 4400 is a FANTASTIC performer and will last forever. WB4IVG Laurin

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Metz Manta-6 40 Ss


I did my own test. Beat two 8 foot shakespeare antnnas and that Metz is what the coast guard uses.
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This ten-year-old thread was recently revived. The GAM SS-2 antenna is similar to the Metz. The GAM SS-2 has a better method of attachment of the whip and a much better method for mounting atop an extension mast.

Practical Sailor compared many three-foot antennas in a 2007 article that is now available on-line at:

https://www.practical-sailor.com/mar...f-antenna-test
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Oh yes Gam is great too. I also sell them. I'm told that Gam and Metz are a family of companies one belongs to the son in law of the other or so such. Doesn't matter they are fantastic performers, I was also told the the Shakespeare 4400 is a beefed up copy of the Gam and or Metz. The only difference I see between them is durability. The Shakespeare has a stiffer rod so it stands up straighter in high wind, of course the other two are more flexible and less likely to break. There are supposedly two others selling copies of this style antenna one being Tram the other is Taylor. I'm told they perform well but are much more cheaply manufactured. Laurin WB4IVG

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