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Old 05-17-2010, 07:55 PM   #1
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I have a Simrad CP32 and it is an older unit that does not even have differential. I would love some ideas on what would be a good replacement that is easy to use and might fit in somewhat the same flush mount space. The Simrad unit is about an 8 inch wide hole. I can always get a new Starboard blank made to fit the new unit and my existing ICOM radio and CVS-106 Sitex/

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Old 05-17-2010, 08:35 PM   #2
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I recently purchased a Furuno Navnet Vx2 GP 1920 and I love it big 10.4" screen. I don't think you can go wrong with Furuno. I had a Furuno 1650 DF before this and I loved it too but I wanted a bigger screen, getting older like bigger pictures. I have used Furuno equipment since 1990 and have not so much as blown a fuse in any of it.
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:37 PM   #3
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mkalink,

Thanks for the reply. I too am getting older and larger is always better. I have a Furuno 1650 that my son and I are installing in my 21 Parker and that is a great unit but he will use it more than me.

Where did you get yours and what did it cost? I am going to start looking for the unit here in NC and around. Did you flush mount yours?
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Be sure to take a look at the Raymarine units such as the A series and the C wide. They are bright, easy to use, and have a great sounder.
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Getfeetwet.com has a deal going on Garmin 3206 bundled refurbs. It's a nice unit, about the same size as your simrad cp32.
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:58 AM   #6
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Thanks guys for all the feedback. Keep it coming. My head is dizzy with so many choices and technology is improving so fast that I cannot keep up.

I am going to look at all those suggested.

I don't want to start a bash thread either but any feedback on a unit that someone did not like and why is good too.
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Thanks guys for all the feedback. Keep it coming. My head is dizzy with so many choices and technology is improving so fast that I cannot keep up.
I am going to look at all those suggested.
I don't want to start a bash thread either but any feedback on a unit that someone did not like and why is good too.
I too like my HDS-8, but I don't like the included transducer. Lowrance HDS-8 or 10 system is second to none if connected to an Airmar transducer.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:42 AM   #8
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I was leery about going to Garmin based on my experience with Cust Serv on a NUVI product. I have 2 of their GPS units for my cars and both were eligible for software updates free and both times the rep told me to wait for the newer version to come out and when I called back in, they said pay up for the new stuff or no deal.

I even had the rep's names that told me to wait and they still told me to shove it. I told them that I was in the market for a new Marine GPS/Plotter and they did not give a rip about that. It left a sour taste in my mouth and so that is why I was looking for more feedback on other units.

Raymarine, Lowrance,Furuno, and all the others seem good I just wondered if there was one that more people use and like than others but that might not be the case as they all may be very capable and user friendly units.
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They don't get any easier to use than Garmin. Far easier and more user friendly than Raymarine.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:30 PM   #10
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Tell me more. What is the model of the Garmin you have? Yea I am ticked at them for the land yacht Garmin issue, but I could get over it if the Marine units are good and the older I get the easier it needs to be.

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yes, many will agree that garmin is intrinsically easier to use than others, but that is not to say Ray, Furuno, or Navico are horrible. Since you already have some familiarity on using marine electronics, the learning curve to do the most used and basic functions on the already mentioned brands are very easy and should not be intimidating nor the biggest purchasing factor. A minimal amount of time spent on each machine will have you feeling comfortable very quickly. I've owned and used Garmin, Raymarine, Humminbird, lowrance and currently running mainly Furuno and none of them have bad set-ups nor minor complexities that can't be figured out.

Particularly in today's market, marine elec. manufacturers can not have an unfriendly
user product.

In fact the level of user friendly product, IMO, will see a huge change in the next year alone to unprecedented levels with technology similar to iPad in marine electronics.
You can do a search and check out some people already toying with using an iPad as a plotter--it even has apps for boating nav already!

IMO, i don't think you can go too wrong with any particular brand, much has to do with just personal preferences and your particular boating application.

You also mentioned customer support/service, if this is a serious issue for you and have little patience for CS BS, then some companies are definitely better than others and may help to narrow your decision. Again, a quick search will reveal what brands are good, fair and those that need "definite improvement".
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Some great feedback from you and thanks. If I wanted to search for CS info, what is the best resource? I had done some Google looking but did not find much. Is there a good source for Reviews that are not inherently biased?

Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
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AB, there is likely no better place than right here at THT to do a search on customer service for a particular brand.
in a seach, try "furuno service", "raymarine service", "lowrance service", "Navico service", "Garmin service", etc

Yes, you'll have to wade thru some BS, but after reading a bunch of threads, you'll see the overall picture and a good indication of how the brands operate their CS.

IMO, i've been most impressed with Furuno, followed by Raymarine (but my experience with them was with my C80 system from 3+ years ago and i know times have changed some in light of current situation), recently contacted Humminbird for my new 798cSI and received a prompt response, and thumbs down for Lowrance. For me, only because my local lowrance dealer is awesome would i buy lowrance.
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I don't know how much easier any unit can be than my Raymarine units. For the sounder, you turn it on. It works and tunes itself with great resolution. As for the CP, it has the charts and GPS receiver built in and by turning it on and hitting "find Ship" you are in business. I also uses Navionics chartes that are updated regularly.
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I too like my HDS-8, but I don't like the included transducer. Lowrance HDS-8 or 10 system is second to none if connected to an Airmar transducer.
Can you explain the difference? I was told by the agent here to just put the included transducer in a glob of silicone on the inside hull and that's it . My friend did that with the HDS-7 and raves about the results. I can pay the difference and switch to airmar about $100 . How about P79 with antifreeze bath 50/200. If you use this transducer can you read 83 still ? the salesman (tech) was unsure.
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Can you explain the difference? I was told by the agent here to just put the included transducer in a glob of silicone on the inside hull and that's it . My friend did that with the HDS-7 and raves about the results. I can pay the difference and switch to airmar about $100 . How about P79 with antifreeze bath 50/200. If you use this transducer can you read 83 still ? the salesman (tech) was unsure.
The 50/200kHz transducer HST.DFSBL, their sentetivity will be significantly reduced overtime. I used said transducer with LMS-525, after few months the sentetivity of the transducer went down, the signle become too weak, no detail and losses bottom reading over 200ft. But, I used my HDS unit with the same brokin transducer and worked very good with very strong signal and show alot of detail. However, it is known that lowrance transducer is the lower end and have very short life.
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You guys have been great. Lots of good stuff here and I am starting to do my due diligence on the choice.

Anyone else want to throw their opinions my way?

Thanks.
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Atlanticbeach,
Each company has various electronics that do this and do that .....I use to think that the more features a product has , the better it was ......NOW , after owning many different companies units , I find that as many features as they may have, if said features don't work, or fail to work right from the start , you need to contact the company ....THIS is the tricky part ....If you can get a company to respond back to you, and remedy your situation in a timely fashion, you are WAY ahead of the game .... It's not a matter of IF your electronics have a problem, but WHEN your electronics have a problem .... The company that you can contact and can remedy your problem gets my vote ....There are electronics out there that have all the bells and whistles, but if the bells and whistles don't work, and you can't contact customer service or find anyone to fix them, they are basically USELESS !!!...By all means do some searches on CUSTOMER SEVICE for each company who's products you are interested in, and see what their track record is .....Another thing that I can tell you is that some companies make better fishfinders , and other companies make better GPS units .... Rarely will you find a company that makes really good combo units that have good customer service ....It's all a trade off .... I'm not going to praise any company , nor will I bad mouth another ....You do the research as to what you want in your electronics, but put customer service up there with features and price .... !!!... It's more important now more than ever with electronics so cheaply made these days .....Jim
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