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Old 07-26-2004, 10:06 AM
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I am going to install a stereo/CD player and 2, 6" speakers in my small center console.
It is not the best stereo, but the wife bought it and I want to install her first investment in the boat as she bought it. The equipment is as follows:

Panasonic CD Stereo(no remote)
Two 6" speakers
Poly Panar enclosure
Shakespeare Splitter for the VHF Antennae

I have 3 mounting locations for the speakers:
1) at the front of the console above the backrest for the seat(Speakers facing the bow)
2) on the sides of the console, near the bottom of the windshield, below the grab rail for the T-Top (concerned about the speakers interfering with the compass, speakers facing out from the console)
3) at the bottom of the console right by your feet when you are at the helm(concerned about the rear of the speaker when getting items in and out of the console), Can I use Tupperware bowls and hold them in place with 4200 calking?

The stereo itself will be mounted in the Poly Planar box, and I am going to cut the console to accomodate the box. I was going to use the bracket that is supplied to keep it in place by drilling the top of the console and attaching the bracket to the console and the PP box ( a semi flush install of the stereo) This will limit an upgrade of the fishfinder to a color unit with a larger display. I probably have enough room to mount it on top of the console, I just don't like all the wiring exposed and it might not look too good.

Making the connections: The speakers seem pretty straight forward, the power is where I have some questions. I am going to connect the negative to the negative bus.
The power I was going to connect to the distribution panel, I am going to use a stack connector to the Deck lights as I never use these. The stereo has a 10 AMP fuse, do I need to install an inline fuse to protect the stereo? Do I need to connect the ACC wire to the distribution Panel?

I plan on using 14 Gauge wire and Waterproof butt connectors and then sealing it all up with liquid electrical tape

Open to any suggestions on how to complete this project. Being electrically challenged, feel free to poke fun at me

Thanks in advance
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Old 07-26-2004, 12:30 PM
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Old 07-26-2004, 05:38 PM
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all this talk of cuttting and drilling into the console gives me a weak stomach. here's what you do:

1.Return the radio to the store and buy a 2 ch small amp for marine use (clarion, JBL)

2. Buy an iPod off ebay and transfer all the cd's you own and all that you can borrow to the ipod.

3. Mount the amp inside and speakers in the console

4. Drill ONE 1/8 INCH HOLE IN THE DASH in your line of sight.

6. Take the ipod to a radio shack and buy a cable that will connect the ipod to the amp

7. stick the cable thru the hole and velcro the ipod ot the dash.



Now enjoy more music that you could possibly take with you on the boat...
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Old 07-26-2004, 11:54 PM
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Hey Stripa, a couple of questions first.

(and BTW - I can understand the desire to install the wife's investment!!)

Do you have the full Poly Planar enclosure? Or just the front cover version? I went to the edgewater site and looked at the one picture I could find of your console and I'd consider mounting the unit on top (if it's the full enclosure) and neatly running the wires down into the console. The picture on their site also appears to have the speakers mounted as you describe in your option #2, I'd go with that, you'll find the sound pretty good, the other two options don't seem to me like they'd work very well. IMO.

I'd be hesitant to start cutting holes in the console for a semi-flush mount, at least given your (I think) limited experience. You could start off by just test mounting the radio in the enclosure and holding it on the top of the console, see how well you can get to the controls and if it affects your compass. Basicly take a test run.

My memory is a bit foggy right now, it's getting late, but I think you have three power connections. Black (negative - to the negative bus bar just like the horn!), red and yellow, both positive. There should be a fuse on both of the, check the documentation that comes with the stereo. The red normally provides power all of the time (keeps the clock and station presets working), while the yellow (acc) turns the main unit on. So, if you want the clock and such to work you'd need to connect the red to an alway on circuit (or straight to the battery, with a fuse) and the yellow to your switch.

That should get you started.

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Old 07-27-2004, 08:57 AM
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Don't worry if the radio is the best or not. First of all, it's going in a boat..not your living room. More imporant, your wife bought you something for the boat.....and if you're smart (and I know you are, from your post)...that radio is the best one made and absolutely perfect

If you are nervous about do it yourself, you might want to hire someone to install it....and don't tell the wife the cost.
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:09 AM
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I tend to discourage mounting stereo speakers on the console. Think about it, you're pointing the music outside the boat. If you could stuff them under the gunwales or, in the sides somehow, like replacing an inspection plate with a speaker, you'd be better off. Just try to have the speakers facing the console.
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I mounted my Aquatronics unit in the console just above the door. I used the splash guard. I mounted my speaker as low on the console as possible so as to not interfere with the compass. This location also offered the best sound as it bounces off of the gunwales. I used window sealing material from the hardware store to seal everything up and I used speaker back box from Radio Shack. It sounds real good and works for me!
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:31 AM
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Stripa,

I mounted mine exactly as you plan. Works great. My only issue was the semi-flush showed
small gaps between the hole I cut and the box. I used a bead of 5200 and a nice piece of braided nylon line and circled the area where the box meets the console. Nautical as all hell

If you want I'll email a pic

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Old 07-27-2004, 10:14 PM
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I use a body saw to make the cutouts for speakers and radios. It is a pneumatic saw that is like a handheld reciprocating saw that runs about 10,000 strokes per minute. You can get them at Harbor Freight Tools for about $20. Cuts thick fiberglass like a jig-saw cuts 1/4 inch plywood.
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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...329&pricetype=

Here's a link if you're interested.
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Glenn,
Interested in your idea about the ipod. I like the idea over the traditional stereo setup. It hurts me just thinking about cutting more holes in the center console than I have too,but if that is the only option, I will. I don't own an ipod so I don't know a lot about them. Do you have this setup in your boat? I looked on Apple's website and was trying to determine what kind of hardware is required to connect an ipod to an amp and would this really work. It doesn't say specifically this will work with an amp only, but says it is compatible with a stereo, or I guess a tuner.
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Old 07-27-2004, 10:56 PM
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very simple install - see my post above and the photo of my dash in the photo forum under "ipod dash install" - not counting the speaker install, it will take you all of about 30 min to have 500 albums at your fingertips or play them shuffled!
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Great looking layout, I am impressed. I think I'm sold on an Ipod.
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just sent you a ms word doc that explains the whole install - I have installed this setup on 5 boats for friends so good luck - it's easy!
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Glenn,
Appreciate the information.
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