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Old 07-21-2004, 10:50 PM
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Mucho howdies, this is my first time on the electronics forum. I posted a request on the boating forum for a good choice in CC's and WA's and got all the help I could hope for and then some. Got the boat/motor picked, the seats I want, the trailer and now I have a need to pick new electronics for a new ocean fishing boat. I am told by a few salespeople that Lowrance is a good name in depth/fish finders, Garmin is good for gps, and Icom for vhf with a Digiatal antenna. Is this true? Can anyone recommend particular models for my use. To let you know what I will be using the sets for: I will be fishing in coastal waters off Baja in Sea of Cortez...depths ranging from launching at 1.5 ft. through shallow river to sea entrance and running out to about the 800' mark for most fishing. Pelagic fish mostly, yellowtail, over rocks at 150' - 250' depths, but lots of bottomfishing from 30' - 300'..snapper, grouper, cabrilla, spotted bass, triggerfish, etc. Seasonal dorado, yellowfin tuna, etc. Finding that rock pile is handy the next day, as is locating a floating kelp mass for dorado. I think color would be nice...my eyes are getting a little fuzzy the last few years and that might help. Actually, I guess that is the most important thing...I have to be able to see it clearly and hear it clearly...probably with some help. The clearest definition of a fish or school would be good, I suppose. As would the clearest, most legible audio. I am going to be spending a whole lot of time out there, so I want good gear to enjoy it to the max. Thanks. Tight lines to you.
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:29 PM
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Without knowing more about your intended budget, it is hard to recommend anything. In my experience, stick with Garmin for the GPS. If interested, I can provide web site where you can buy a Garmin 2006 mono for $699, $300 less than most other retailers. As for fish finders, hard to beat Furuno. I would go with a color scope for the fishfinder. Good luck in your quest.
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Old 07-22-2004, 07:23 AM
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GPS = Garmin
Radio = ICOM
Antenna = Digital Antennas
Depth Finder = Furuno
Radar = Ray Marine
Auto Pilot = Simrad

You can not make a mistake following that list.

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Old 07-22-2004, 07:53 AM
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nah the best depthfinder is lowrance by far. I have owned both and the 104C blows away the furuno's. The gps in it aint half bad either.
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Old 07-22-2004, 05:00 PM
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You're on the right track. Just be sure to get a quality transducer, as it will make a considerable difference on performance of your fishfinder.

Consider Thom's advice on brands, as he has certainly demonstrated his knowledge on this forum previously.

That being said, I am much happier with the performance of my Lowrance LCX-19c fishfinder on my current boat than I was with my color Furuno 600 on my previous boat. But in all fairness, I now have an Airmar B256 instead of the previous Airmar P66 transducer.

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Old 07-22-2004, 09:04 PM
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the 256 is a heck of a xducer aint it.
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:17 PM
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Thanks again, I didn't know there was a choice of transducers or the ability to change them. Would the Airmar B256 apply to any brand transducer...or just to Lowrance...and then only certain models?
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:22 PM
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I believe that the B256 is available for most major brands. It's a powerful thru-hull unit. Try the search feature for transducers, Airmar, etc for previous discussions that you may find helpful.
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:17 AM
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nah the best depthfinder is lowrance by far. I have owned both and the 104C blows away the furuno's. The gps in it aint half bad either.
Sea Dad- Give the guy a straight answer! "Blows the FURUNO away?!" You've got a transducer on your Lowrance that costs almost as much as the FURUNO 600 you had! And now you have a Lowrance that costs, what, about $2000.00?

And does your LOWRANCE work better than the FURUNO before or after you did "surgery" on it? Maybe when you cracked open that FURUNO to put a dessicant bag in it, you might not have put everything back in it's place?

And maybe the guy isn't interested in going home and watching reruns of all the rockpiles he passed while trolling that day. Maybe he wants to keep his eye on the grill instead!

And let us not forget about the well documented, high rate of LOWRANCE failures. It's hard to use it when your FF is in a UPS box!

Not trying to start a pissing match match by any means. God knows there's too much of that around here lately. But the fellow is obviously not as knowledgeable as you. At least DRIFTER made it a point about what a high end transducer can do far ANY FF.
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:15 AM
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I have read all and thanks for the suggestions. I will make my choices based on information gathered here. One thought is that I am out there to relax, not become an electronics 'expert',... but knowledgeable nevertheless..just want my gear to be the best. You all have given me a good list to start my shopping. Tight Lines.
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:54 PM
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Big E - 7/23/2004 6:17 AM

Sea_Dad - 7/22/2004 8:53 AM

nah the best depthfinder is lowrance by far. I have owned both and the 104C blows away the furuno's. The gps in it aint half bad either.
Sea Dad- Give the guy a straight answer! "Blows the FURUNO away?!" You've got a transducer on your Lowrance that costs almost as much as the FURUNO 600 you had! And now you have a Lowrance that costs, what, about $2000.00?

And does your LOWRANCE work better than the FURUNO before or after you did "surgery" on it? Maybe when you cracked open that FURUNO to put a dessicant bag in it, you might not have put everything back in it's place?

And maybe the guy isn't interested in going home and watching reruns of all the rockpiles he passed while trolling that day. Maybe he wants to keep his eye on the grill instead!

And let us not forget about the well documented, high rate of LOWRANCE failures. It's hard to use it when your FF is in a UPS box!

Not trying to start a pissing match match by any means. God knows there's too much of that around here lately. But the fellow is obviously not as knowledgeable as you. At least DRIFTER made it a point about what a high end transducer can do far ANY FF.
touchy touchy.

let me answer these civily so we dont romp down the forbidden path.

Sea Dad- Give the guy a straight answer! "Blows the FURUNO away?!" You've got a transducer on your Lowrance that costs almost as much as the FURUNO 600 you had! And now you have a Lowrance that costs, what, about $2000.00?
Wouldnt you expect it to blow away the Furuno when it costs more, and has a better xducer on it? I did and it does, by far.

And does your LOWRANCE work better than the FURUNO before or after you did "surgery" on it? Maybe when you cracked open that FURUNO to put a dessicant bag in it, you might not have put everything back in it's place?
Actually mine never fogged up. So I never had to add a dessicant bag to it. I offered that as a suggestion to 2 or 3 others that complained of theirs fogging up. The difference... I took mine off the boat every night, theirs was flush mounted and exposed to the temperature swings of night after being contaminated during the day. The Furunos are not sealed tight by any means. So yes, it blows away a virgin, non modified non contaminated 600L easily.

And maybe the guy isn't interested in going home and watching reruns of all the rockpiles he passed while trolling that day. Maybe he wants to keep his eye on the grill instead!
Thats not much of an argument to support not having one though is it? I mean while he's trolling and has to tend to the baits shouldnt he be allowed to use a FF that will watch the grill for him?

And let us not forget about the well documented, high rate of LOWRANCE failures. It's hard to use it when your FF is in a UPS box!
Mine sits on my boat as we speak. I think you are trying to average some into thousands. Anything can break, even Furunos. It's hard to see the grill when it's lost in a fog. (back at cha )

No doubt a good xducer can do wonders for any FF within reason. But there are many reasons the 104 is better than the 600L, and it was only $1350 too. For me it was worth it for twice the money. I have logged lots of new "honey" holes that I never even noticed as I was trolling over them because my eye was on the baits and not the grill.
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:52 PM
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Im gonna vote for Lorance. I have not owned a Furuno product so I cant say too much on their behalf. I do have a Lowrance LCX-19C and have not had any of the typical Lowrance problems( I had a LMS 350A before this unit) I think Lowrance has come a long way as far as reliability in the last 2 years. just one mans oppinion.
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Old 07-23-2004, 10:05 PM
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fcv 1100 enough said


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Not TOUCHY at all! Hope you noticed all the smileys. Got just the response I thought I would out of you!

Just trying to point out that "My Brand" is always going to be the best in anyone's eyes, that's why they chose it. But at least offer the whys and why nots, especially when you've had hands on experience with different brands. Comparative assessments are a lot more valuable, IMO, then generalities like"Best Recreational FF on the market". That's what you did in your reply and I think "bajafisher" and a few other members are better informed.

And yes, FURUNOS, do break. But only when their owners drop a trophy fish!
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Hi,
I'd look at Raymarine if your wallet is fat enough. They came out with a new Digital sounder module for an excellent view and if you want a combo unit the L760 is nice. You can split the screens, hook up a radar or other displays. Make sure you get the HSB2 model.

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Old 07-25-2004, 06:19 PM
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I am getting the hang of posting these 'threads'..slowly. Afraid I have another running on the same subject of sonars, etc. I will get better. I have lots of electronic info stored up on some some recommended units. One thing interests me most about the depth/fish/gps/temp/etc. electronic marvels is their ability to SPOT FISH!..at any fishable depths. That's what I'm going out there for and that's what I will spend the most money on...the best sonar that 'distinguishes fish from the rocks', and then individual fish..with the best and 'most viewable' screen..I would prefer color, but monochrome may be more sensitive? The unit I want is just within my grasp..I want to order it...does it exist...Que es? what is it??
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Old 07-25-2004, 06:34 PM
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they dont spot fish. The air bladders reflect the sonar signal and that return reflection is what gets displayed. You are left to interpret the display as to what you think it means. Sometimes it's obvious, other times it's not.

If you can afford the extra expense for color, go for color. It is much easier to interpret a color display for the average user than a monochrome display is.
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:38 AM
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Thanks...my unit will have these features for sure: color, gps, dual frequency transducer transom mount 50/200, good sized screen. Need to be sure that components are included in purchase..like these annoying gps add-ons(why call it a gps model if it doesn't work without some other gadget)... and transducer selections. Why don't they just make the darn things usable 'as is'? I suppose as a novice, I am a little impatient and maybe I should just buy a cheaper model that is 'ready to use', but I don't want to upgrade later when I can do it right the first time. So waht do I have to order in addition to the chosen unit? GPS antenna? GPS hardware? More cables? Dual transducer 50/200..(okay, but maybe something I've missed there)? A year from now I will look back at these questions and have a good chuckle, I'm sure.
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