Lowarance HDS-10 Fuel Management Help
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I've been trying to figure out how to use the fuel management features of the Lowrance HDS-10. I've got a Yamaha F150 connected via NMEA 2000 and have no problem displaying the fuel flow, fuel tank level, etc. in the HDS-10 info screens. When I go to the "Fuel" menu and press "calibrate" I get this:

OK fair enough. Filled up tank and via the Refuel screen I selected the "Set to full" option which should present me with calibration options as outlined in the above message?

But instead all I get is this:

The fuel management would be very useful for me. If anybody has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Thx.

OK fair enough. Filled up tank and via the Refuel screen I selected the "Set to full" option which should present me with calibration options as outlined in the above message?

But instead all I get is this:

The fuel management would be very useful for me. If anybody has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Thx.
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OK, I am new to this as well. I just went through this myself.
First off, Do you have a fuel flow meter(EP60r) Lowrance model tied into your NMEA 2000 network? If not that is your problem, it has to have one to read fuel flow.
I have read somewhere on here that the Lowrance will not see the Yamaha flow device. You will need the lowrance fuel flow device.
I bought a LMF 200, ep60r fuel flow meter and two HDS 7's and hooked it all up over the week end and found I did not even need the LMF 200, because once the fuel flow is tied into the network the HDS units picks it up and will allow you to set your parameters.
Hope this helped. Contact a board member by the name"tcm" here and he is very knowledgable on these units.
First off, Do you have a fuel flow meter(EP60r) Lowrance model tied into your NMEA 2000 network? If not that is your problem, it has to have one to read fuel flow.
I have read somewhere on here that the Lowrance will not see the Yamaha flow device. You will need the lowrance fuel flow device.
I bought a LMF 200, ep60r fuel flow meter and two HDS 7's and hooked it all up over the week end and found I did not even need the LMF 200, because once the fuel flow is tied into the network the HDS units picks it up and will allow you to set your parameters.
Hope this helped. Contact a board member by the name"tcm" here and he is very knowledgable on these units.
Last edited by racedad70; 03-08-2010 at 09:55 AM. Reason: wording
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OK, I am new to this as well. I just went through this myself.
First off, Do you have a fuel flow meter(EP60r) Lowrance model tied into your NMEA 2000 network? If not that is your problem, it has to have one to read fuel flow.
I have read somewhere on here that the Lowrance will not see the Yamaha flow device. You will need the lowrance fuel flow device.
I bought a LMF 200, ep60r fuel flow meter and two HDS 7's and hooked it all up over the week end and found I did not even need the LMF 200, because once the fuel flow is tied into the network the HDS units picks it up and will allow you to set your parameters.
Hope this helped. Contact a board member by the name"tcm" here and he is very knowledgable on these units.
First off, Do you have a fuel flow meter(EP60r) Lowrance model tied into your NMEA 2000 network? If not that is your problem, it has to have one to read fuel flow.
I have read somewhere on here that the Lowrance will not see the Yamaha flow device. You will need the lowrance fuel flow device.
I bought a LMF 200, ep60r fuel flow meter and two HDS 7's and hooked it all up over the week end and found I did not even need the LMF 200, because once the fuel flow is tied into the network the HDS units picks it up and will allow you to set your parameters.
Hope this helped. Contact a board member by the name"tcm" here and he is very knowledgable on these units.

This is looking at the device data from the Yamaha. You can see it is being reported as Fuel Rate and the value is fine (.53 gal/hr).
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I do not have the EP60R but I do have my Yamaha engine tied in via NMEA2000 and it DOES show fuel flow on the info screens. It would make no sense to me to have to have a Lowrance sensor when the whole idea of NMEA is to SHARE data, but I am starting to suspect you are right.....no Lowrance fuel flow....no fuel flow data, which is very disappointing for a 2K+ unit.
I know over the week end, I did adjust those parameters that you showed on your unit.

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Do you have the round or square Yamaha guages? I have round digital not the square command link. There is a big difference in the two. I just ordered the lowrance cable for the Yamaha so I can use the guages on the HDS as well.
I know over the week end, I did adjust those parameters that you showed on your unit.
I know over the week end, I did adjust those parameters that you showed on your unit.

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Hmm! That is really strange. If its showing the device you should be able to adjust its parameters.;?
Maybe the board member tcm will chime in on this one. Im curiouse myself now.
I was reading in the manual that if you have a fluid level sensor, there was a parameter in the fuel flow that could not be adjusted. Im wondering if because its reading your fuel level sensor from your command link it has diabled that calibration fuction.
I assume this is what has happened. I will find it in my manual when I get home and let you know. I know the 10 is different than the 7's but same principle.
Here is what was in the manual: Not sure if this pertains to your situation.
Caution
If you configure your fluid level for fuel, you will NOT be able to
get a fuel range reading. Fuel Range will NOT be calculated
with a fluid level sensor. It will only be calculated with an
engine interface, EP-10 Fuel Flow or EP-50 Storage Device.
Maybe the board member tcm will chime in on this one. Im curiouse myself now.
I was reading in the manual that if you have a fluid level sensor, there was a parameter in the fuel flow that could not be adjusted. Im wondering if because its reading your fuel level sensor from your command link it has diabled that calibration fuction.
I assume this is what has happened. I will find it in my manual when I get home and let you know. I know the 10 is different than the 7's but same principle.
Here is what was in the manual: Not sure if this pertains to your situation.
Caution
If you configure your fluid level for fuel, you will NOT be able to
get a fuel range reading. Fuel Range will NOT be calculated
with a fluid level sensor. It will only be calculated with an
engine interface, EP-10 Fuel Flow or EP-50 Storage Device.
Last edited by racedad70; 03-08-2010 at 12:53 PM. Reason: add info
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Hmm! That is really strange. If its showing the device you should be able to adjust its parameters.;?
Maybe the board member tcm will chime in on this one. Im curiouse myself now.
I was reading in the manual that if you have a fluid level sensor, there was a parameter in the fuel flow that could not be adjusted. Im wondering if because its reading your fuel level sensor from your command link it has diabled that calibration fuction.
I assume this is what has happened. I will find it in my manual when I get home and let you know. I know the 10 is different than the 7's but same principle.
Here is what was in the manual: Not sure if this pertains to your situation.
Caution
If you configure your fluid level for fuel, you will NOT be able to
get a fuel range reading. Fuel Range will NOT be calculated
with a fluid level sensor. It will only be calculated with an
engine interface, EP-10 Fuel Flow or EP-50 Storage Device.
Maybe the board member tcm will chime in on this one. Im curiouse myself now.
I was reading in the manual that if you have a fluid level sensor, there was a parameter in the fuel flow that could not be adjusted. Im wondering if because its reading your fuel level sensor from your command link it has diabled that calibration fuction.
I assume this is what has happened. I will find it in my manual when I get home and let you know. I know the 10 is different than the 7's but same principle.
Here is what was in the manual: Not sure if this pertains to your situation.
Caution
If you configure your fluid level for fuel, you will NOT be able to
get a fuel range reading. Fuel Range will NOT be calculated
with a fluid level sensor. It will only be calculated with an
engine interface, EP-10 Fuel Flow or EP-50 Storage Device.
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Sorry to but into your post but I just bought an HDS 8 last summer and I friggin love it best 2-grand I ever spent. If you don't mind me asking, I have a 225 merc on my boat do I need a different sensor then you do or is it generic to the Lawrance? how much does it cost anyway? I got the seperate antenna with mine 5 updates a second is unreal.
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Sorry to but into your post but I just bought an HDS 8 last summer and I friggin love it best 2-grand I ever spent. If you don't mind me asking, I have a 225 merc on my boat do I need a different sensor then you do or is it generic to the Lawrance? how much does it cost anyway? I got the seperate antenna with mine 5 updates a second is unreal.
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Plugs into the NMEA 2000 network. If you don't have NMEA 2000 set up yet, you would need the starter kit too: http://www.lei-extras.com/store/add.asp?aon=124%2D69
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Sorry to but into your post but I just bought an HDS 8 last summer and I friggin love it best 2-grand I ever spent. If you don't mind me asking, I have a 225 merc on my boat do I need a different sensor then you do or is it generic to the Lawrance? how much does it cost anyway? I got the seperate antenna with mine 5 updates a second is unreal.
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As onemile said, you need the 60r and NMEA starter kit to tie in your HDS 8 and fuelflow sensor.Its real easy. And I also have the LGC 4000 antenna that I installed. I just have not had the boat out to try all my new toys yet. Glad to here the updates though.
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onemile,
Here are some shots! I could not stand it any longer and snuck out early..... I believe though if I hook up the cable to the engine, I will lose some functions of calibration.
Here are some shots! I could not stand it any longer and snuck out early..... I believe though if I hook up the cable to the engine, I will lose some functions of calibration.
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racedad, kudos for sneaking out AND snapping those pics. you def. have different data on your network than i do. it looks like your fuel sensor reports more than just fuel rate. guess i should just buy the darn sensor and be done with it. what's another 75 bucks and couple hours of my life

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racedad, kudos for sneaking out AND snapping those pics. you def. have different data on your network than i do. it looks like your fuel sensor reports more than just fuel rate. guess i should just buy the darn sensor and be done with it. what's another 75 bucks and couple hours of my life 

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onemile, You still may have the issue with calibration due to the unit reading your command link, fuel fill indicator. I will let you know once I get my cable from LEI and add it to the network and Yamaha. I dont mind setting the full fill option when cheking GPH and fuel used. From what I have read, once your NMEA detects a fuel level device the option goes away.;?
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I think this is what I have been asking the Suzuki and Lowrance dealer here in Perth/Australia that are about to fit my new DF175.
I have a HDS7M and was told I need to fit a LMF-400 or LMF200 with the EP-60R to get fuel management,but if I have read this right a couple of you guys have the EP-60R working direct with your HDS units via your NMEA network.
So please be kind but from what some of you guys have done is just used the EP-60R into your NMEA network and the HDS has read it, is that right.
I'm asking this like a knob because after a phone call to Lowrance Australia and Suzuki they have told me I have to wait for Suzuki to bring out there new cable in a few weeks because there is NO other way to have fuel managment other than buying there gauges being it Suzuki or Lowrance.
I have a HDS7M and was told I need to fit a LMF-400 or LMF200 with the EP-60R to get fuel management,but if I have read this right a couple of you guys have the EP-60R working direct with your HDS units via your NMEA network.
So please be kind but from what some of you guys have done is just used the EP-60R into your NMEA network and the HDS has read it, is that right.
I'm asking this like a knob because after a phone call to Lowrance Australia and Suzuki they have told me I have to wait for Suzuki to bring out there new cable in a few weeks because there is NO other way to have fuel managment other than buying there gauges being it Suzuki or Lowrance.
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I think this is what I have been asking the Suzuki and Lowrance dealer here in Perth/Australia that are about to fit my new DF175.
I have a HDS7M and was told I need to fit a LMF-400 or LMF200 with the EP-60R to get fuel management,but if I have read this right a couple of you guys have the EP-60R working direct with your HDS units via your NMEA network.
So please be kind but from what some of you guys have done is just used the EP-60R into your NMEA network and the HDS has read it, is that right.
I'm asking this like a knob because after a phone call to Lowrance Australia and Suzuki they have told me I have to wait for Suzuki to bring out there new cable in a few weeks because there is NO other way to have fuel managment other than buying there gauges being it Suzuki or Lowrance.
I have a HDS7M and was told I need to fit a LMF-400 or LMF200 with the EP-60R to get fuel management,but if I have read this right a couple of you guys have the EP-60R working direct with your HDS units via your NMEA network.
So please be kind but from what some of you guys have done is just used the EP-60R into your NMEA network and the HDS has read it, is that right.
I'm asking this like a knob because after a phone call to Lowrance Australia and Suzuki they have told me I have to wait for Suzuki to bring out there new cable in a few weeks because there is NO other way to have fuel managment other than buying there gauges being it Suzuki or Lowrance.
You might not even need the EP-60R once the new Suzuki cable comes out? From the looks of their discontinued cable it supplied the same data the EP-60R does. http://www.lowrance.com/Products/Mar...ine-Interface/
Here is the HDS7 user guide, it clearly shows the fuel data:
http://mediabase.edbasa.com/kunder/navico/download.php?object_id=navidoc~54081227&f=/images/TIBE/device/navico/library/navidoc/navidoc/navidoc/j2009/m03/t31/0001248_2.pdf&fc=HDS-5M-7M-GPS_OM_EN_988_0176_02_B_w.pdf&type=download