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Old 05-16-2004, 06:16 PM
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OK, I posted earlier that I was having a TR-1 AP installed and promised to give my $.02 on the unit. Well Robert, from TR-1, arrived this Thursday to install the unit. It did not take long as in about 4 hours or so he had the whole thing ready for a fine tuning and a shakedown cruise. Robert is a trip, an ex-Alaska King Crab Captain and has enough stories to keep you entertained for a while but on to the AP.

Now my intent here is not to get into some kind of pissing match on the TR-1 versus whatever brand. My intent is to share, for those interested, what my personal experience was with the AP this weekend on my families trip to Okracoke. My intimate knowledge of AP interworkings is very limited. I had a Raymarine ST 5000 on my old boat and it was a peice of $hit so it was with some anxiety that I approached this unit. I can't tell you what other units can or can't do but I can tell you what this one can do.

First off, it is very intuitive and easy to use. During the shake down, Robert fine tuned the AP and than went through all the features, I mean everyone! Everything went well, our biggest problem was having enough water to go through the circle, search, orbit and other waypoint oriented functions (we were doing it in the ICW). One of the first things that impressed me was the way this AP can hold a straight (and I mean straight) line. I was used to AP's that meander back and forth, not so with this puppy. I believe it might steer straighter than I can! The same was true when you ran it to a waypoint. All you needed was to look at how straight the wake was to know how straight this unit ran. Another thing that was impressive was how fast the unit reacted. While we were testing it, some larger boats were running up the ICW and when the AP encountered the wake from those boats it was incredible how quickly the unit recognized and adjusted for the wake.

Most of you, I am sure, are not familiar with running to Okracoke from Morehead but it is a tight run with lots of opportunities to screw up. It is shallow water with lots of zig zags from one marker to another. The locals say you need a crash helmut to run it, it is not that bad but it is a tight run. Well the TR-1 did great, I used both routes and just sitting back on the seat with the handheld and it did great. All in all I am very pleased with the unit and look forward to sitting back more often with the remote while we run from location to location. The unit is just what I had heard from many users, a true pleasure. I look forward to using it in the upcoming fishing season so I can spend more time in the cockpit and less turning a steering wheel.

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Old 05-16-2004, 06:26 PM
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Kirk,
Congrats and good luck with the AP, your going to love that unit. I have three friends that just put them on their boats, and they are HANDS DOWN THE BEST AP on the market right now. They are worth every doller and then some!! Enjoy.
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Glad to hear about your performance with the TR-1.

I had one recently installed on my boat as well. Only one offshore trip, but I'm very pleased.

I haven't used all of the features of the TR-1, but for the basic function of engaging the unit to hold course, it has been flawless. It does it's job at both higher speeds and at very slow troll. And I like having the ability to grab the wheel to alter the course. I can't hear the unit unless at very slow speeds.

This is my first autopilot, so I can't really compare the unit to other brands. The lack of the rudder feedback is what initially attracted me to the TR-1. I'm hoping for a trouble-free system...

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Old 05-18-2004, 07:12 AM
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Glad to hear positive feedback on the TR-1. I'm in the process of installing mine...well I in the planning stage...do I need to be concerned about the length of my hydr lines? I see where it says not to extend some of the power wires, but I can't find anything on how far/close the pump needs to be to the helm.
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:31 PM
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Robert used the lines that come with the unit, they might be 3 or 4 feet. He installed the pump on the top floor of the console at the same level my batteries are in the bilge. All the components easily fit there with the exception of the gyro which he put on the inside of the console near the door. He mounted the on/off switch on the dash, it is bright in the dark so I wanted to keep it out of my line of sight to my chartplotter. He mounted the AP control under the plexiglass where my flush mount stuff is. He mounted the rudder feedback.....o yea, it doesn't have one of those . The wire for the control is behind the flushmount wall and uses one of those wire gromments (the kind you can tighten to hold water out or loosen to let the cable move freely). That allows me to pull out as much as 15 ft of cable or also tuck it all away when the unit is not in use. I t works real good as you can sit back on the leaning post and relax and steer with the control as necessary.

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Thanks to everyone on the positive feed back. I know that you will love the unit.

Buck_wild: Are you sure that your boat is on order?? You got to be going crazy about now. The hydraulic hose can be just about any distance I have mounted the pump and CPU 8ft away from the helm with no problems. Some of the cabling can be extened without any problem. If fact there are extension cable available. Let me know if I can help you. Chris Tech Services.
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Mine came with no hoses...ummmm. Sure that wasn't provided by your installer?

Chris, we took delivery of the boat last Thursday. It then went to the pipewelder on Monday so it was a very short weekend with her. I think the hoses will only need to be about four to five feet so I don't think it will be a problem. If...(big if) I need to can I extend the power wires from the ECU to the pump? I don't think I will need to, but in the case I do is that possible?

I was planning to hard-mount my handheld controller. How does everyone do that? Do they sell a bracket for it? I noticed two bolts/nuts on the back but didn't want to open it due to it may no longer be water-proof.
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They might have Buck, I got one box with the TR-1, hoses and some hydraulic fluid. Some may have been stuff Robert added for the install.

I originally was going to hard mount the control unit but am glad I did not. The way it is set up it is protected by the console flushmount plexiglass plus the wiring gromment can be tightened to prevent water from getting behind the console. The actual unit is clipped on a clip like you use for a VHF microphone. With the amount of cable I have, I can put the control unit on the leaning post while fishing and have access to it while working the baits. In addition, when running, I don't even have to lean forward, I can just hold the control unit.

If you do decide to hard mount, the instructions tell you how to do it. It is pretty straight forward.

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Old 05-19-2004, 07:24 AM
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Thanks Kirk, I think I may go with the same approach that you did.
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you will need to order the piece that the cable runs through and hold it in place and the clip to hold your controller from nautimatic. they are not included with your auto pilot. well at least my installer didn't put them on or give them to me to install. they cost 7 dollars each plus 10 dollars for shipping....rick
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Buck, the hydraulic hose don't come with the system, but you can use Teleflex tubing or hose. I perfer using the tubing easy to cut and fit to lenght.

As far as mounting the control, you have a couple of options. first you can take the back off and you will not disturb the water proofness. The unit is epoxy incapsulated. I like using a piece of heavy duty velcro and applying it to the back of the control. Or we can send you a mic clip type device that you can screw to the back panel of the control. I like the velcro myself. If you want to flush mount it, we can send you some extentions for the studs that holds the back on.

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Thanks for all the help!
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I had a TR 1 Gladiator installed on my 31 Contender this weekend and am impressed so far. It reacts faster than most Auto pilots. It seems to slow troll well which is great for me since I fish by myself quite a bit. I like the fact that it holds a straight line in the waterway but allows you to instantly take over as needed, when the jetski slides in front of you.
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Mine had the real shake down this weekend as we fished our first tournament. Nice not to have to fight the seas, I sat back and the AP steered a straighter line than I could! Once at our locations, I was able to actually participate in the fishing instead of driving all the time. It was pretty impressive how well it can maintain a course given the seas we had, particularly on Sunday.

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