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Old 04-15-2004, 04:35 PM
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I'm shopping for an autopilot for a 36ft center console w/twin OB. I'm inclined to purchase simrad ap11 w/rate compass upgrade, but would like opinions/advice/experience about the furuno navpilot 511.
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I haven't heard of anyone using the Furuno yet, but have researched it for my boat. Features the Furuno has over the AP 11: Fishing features such as figure 8 over waypoint and a steering knob. Upgraded compass is standard.
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Let you know in a few weeks.
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Old 04-15-2004, 09:12 PM
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I have been using the 500 for a few weeks now. AWESOME, I have had Ray in the past, but never again. Don't know about the Simrad. Kinda busy now, ask more specific questions and I'll try to get back soon.
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Don't forget to concider the TR1, it is worth it.
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Old 04-16-2004, 07:12 AM
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I did get the chance to go on a sea-trial Wednesday with a NavPilot500 (same as the 511 only a larger display). The dockside set-up took about 10 minutes. We then had to calibrate the compass and set up the feedback which was another 10 minutes. The boat was a 61' (?) Viking so it was an inboard feedback. Since it was blowing like stink that day I'm glad the boat was that big.
The total time spent tuning the pilot was about 25-30 minutes. The pilot was placed in their "auto-learn" mode and we just ran around in different directions and speeds.
It worked great, just as advertised. The advanced auto functioned as claimed.
Because of the sea conditions and that the technicians were on the clock we did not test the fishing mode features.
The sysytem has many features and abilities we didn't even touch the surface on them. I looked at the alarm/repeater functions on the display. You can really trick it out if you want to.
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Old 04-16-2004, 09:53 AM
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If Furuno was smart they would price this unit way below the competition to get it started... Tough competition with Simrad the proven leader in the industry. The TR1 company is short lived if you ask me... Prices are also out of sight!


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Old 04-16-2004, 11:30 AM
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The Furuno pilots are equivalent to the Simrad AP20 series, not their AP11.
AP20 with RPU160 = $4650. NavPilot500 with HRP16 (same as 160) = $3,795.
AP22 with 160 = $4225. NavPilot511 with HRP16= $3295.

That sounds like less to me.
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Old 04-18-2004, 11:21 PM
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Sounds like the TR1 is in the same price range as Furuno and Simrad.

And I wouldn't count on TR1 being short lived.
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Old 04-19-2004, 02:23 PM
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Thanks for the info so far. More specific questions... I have read that the design of the furuno rfb may be a potential weak point compared to the simrad's. Also, which size pump would typically be required for a twin OB application?(ram size up to 13 cu in., or ram sizes 14-25 cu in.)
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Old 04-19-2004, 02:49 PM
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I never seen the Simrads RFB so I can't comment. The Furuno is quick, repeatable and has held up so far. trust me if it goes south, I will be bitchin. I am very impressed so far and it takes 10 minutes to install. Dunno about the pump, but I think the one he quoted will work for dual motors and single ram (That's what I have. Dual motors and dual ram may need a slightly bigger pump.
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Old 04-19-2004, 03:54 PM
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Single ram with tie bar use the HRP10.
Dual Rams use the HRP16. (unless you have a liquid tie bar, but that is very rare and not recommended)
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:29 PM
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"250279 NavPilot 511 IB Type 2 System $3,295.00 $2,559.00 "
Maybe I'm reading something wrong, but the Furuno list is LESS than the ALMIGHTY TR1, & the discount price is considerably less. This is from the Consumers site. Elsewhere that I've checked, pricing is similiar.

As far as the Furuno itself, one of the boats from the Bertram31 faithful was used as one of the test platforms. The Captain still has it on his boat & has nothing but praise for the unit.

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Old 04-19-2004, 10:32 PM
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I will just say, as long as the RFB unit works, it will do a great job. But I would be willing to buy you a beer, that you will be bitching, because the RFB will go bad. Teleflex has far I have been able to find out, has not made any big changes in the RFB unit and that is who makes it for Furuno.
I am sure the 511 is a great pilot. but you still have RFB, that is the problem.

As the old saying goes,"pay me now, or pay me later". No one wants to admit it but they have not colved the RFB unit life for out boards. If you have an inboard ,no problem.
Go with the TR1 and you won't have to worry about it, and you can save the install time.
Good luck and boat safe

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Old 04-26-2004, 12:11 PM
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Lower the price on the TR-1 and MAYBE you will see people write about it, right now very few will.

I was compairing the AP 11 to the furuno, far as I'm concerned that's the majority of the rec market. The 160 is a huge pump, what are you running a 50' sportfisherman??
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Old 05-05-2004, 01:40 PM
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I am looking at the price list for Furuno $3295.00 yes but $500.00- $850.00 for a pump( have to have one) So Cost is $3795.00-4145.00.

I am a strong believer in," You get what you pay for". Short lived? noway is that true.

How hard would it be to autopilot a 26 foot flat bottom jet-sled using a 8hp yamaha for power in a following sea?, or gusty wind? and hold the boat dead straight, We are the only company in the world that can do it, and have been for 11 years. If you know anything about pilots, you will know that piloting a kicker motor is much harder than a main engine/s. If our TR-1 Gladiator does not perform extreamly better than any of the others, I'll buy it back!
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TR-1Pete - 5/5/2004 12:40 PM

I am looking at the price list for Furuno $3295.00 yes but $500.00- $850.00 for a pump( have to have one) So Cost is $3795.00-4145.00.
The navpilot 511 ships with the hydraulic pump: (for $2559)

http://www.consumersmarine.com/products2/productdetail.cfm?i=250278&c=25&loc=pl&v=2&sb=PA

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Old 05-05-2004, 02:15 PM
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NavPilot 511 with pump lists at $3395. That gives you either a pump good to 13 cu.in or one good to 26 cu.in.
Comes with a course knob, 2 NMEA inputs and outputs. NMEA combiner capabilities and a display.

It is true, you get what you pay for, but sometimes you don't!
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you can get em cheaper at buyowner
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