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Old 04-06-2004, 08:11 PM
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anyone have any experence with Raymarine St5000?
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:15 PM
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I have the newer one, a year old, and it has worked well for me . . . you have to calibrate it . . . it does not come out of the box ready to use

Apparently the older models sometimes had problems
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:29 PM
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The older ones had a lot of problems and didn't work very well. Sold a lot of them over the years. it seemed that it worked better on slower boats up to 20 knots
What is your application? Do you have one or thinking about buying one.?
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Old 04-07-2004, 06:55 AM
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trying to determine the right pilot for the new GW 258 that I have put on order....Jerry you listening? The Simrad just seems like alot of money
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Old 04-07-2004, 07:19 AM
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If you are considering the raymarine ap's go with the new S1G ones. They have the rate gyro in them and new algorithms to correct all of the old woes. So sayeth the marketing propaganda.

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Old 04-09-2004, 10:29 PM
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Seadog55,
You bought a GW and your concerned about money???
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Old 04-09-2004, 10:50 PM
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jondunn - 4/9/2004 9:29 PM

Seadog55,
You bought a GW and your concerned about money???

Are you kidding? It's always the add-ons that get axed.
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Old 04-09-2004, 11:24 PM
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Seadawg: Save you money. Buy as you can afford the right equipment for you boat. Price is not always the right choice. Before you buy you better do your home work it may save you a lot of head aches and fustration.
If you must have a ap to start with and money is a point. Check out the CourseMaster C81, has no rudder feed back unit to deal with. It is about $2300-$2400.
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Old 04-11-2004, 07:46 PM
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sigh, 82 posts, and about 80 of those selling a specific unit. where did shame go?
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:35 PM
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never mind I got it.
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Old 04-12-2004, 05:01 PM
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I was talking to a friend this weekend at the marina who has a 2 year old Pursuit 3070. His Raymarine ST5000 started acting up while he was fishing Friday. Everyone I know who's had a Ray AP has experienced problems.

Simrad has a much better reputation.
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Old 04-12-2004, 09:15 PM
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I had a 2 year old that re-wrote the book on acting up. So the ray AP can just bring it on.
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:41 AM
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You guys are to much, people come on here asking about help with an auto-pilot , why not tell him about one of the best pilots on the market right now ( TR-1 ). So what if these guys are pushing them, let the person looking decide whats right for him. The more information he has , the better his choice will be. Thats why he came here in the first place, to find out what all his options are.
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Old 04-13-2004, 07:34 AM
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What is the best in the world is a matter of opinion.

It has yet to be shown that the TR-1 in all it's glory holds a better course than any other AP with a rate gyro, and algorithms to counter wind and seas. $I got 5 that it doesnt.

It has neat steering patterns, but so does the Furuno.

It can steer the boat without feedback, but so can a sitex AP.

If does not have a display. A serious shortcoming by any standard.

So it doenst offer anything others dont, it does have a serious lack of a display, and it's priced much too high for the average buyer.

Like I said it's a matter of opinion.
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Old 04-13-2004, 08:33 AM
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I can't help but notice that most if not all of the folks having problems with Chris or the TR-1 folks apparently already own an autopilot. It seems to me we have a case of "I have brand x therefore it is the best". We see that all the time on this board with boats and motors. Look at any post where someone asks a generic question like "What motor should I buy" or "What is the best 21 ft CC". I guess it is a natural human reaction, I know I always try to temper my opinions to recognize that not everyone thinks Yamaha and Contenders are the best for everyone. I understand the desire to hace your choosen product portryed fairly but many folks, including myself have benefited from the input these guys offer. We are smart enough to recognize that anyone that posts here may have their own spin, we don't need that pointed out repeatedly.

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Old 04-13-2004, 02:13 PM
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Well after all of that has been said.............

I have purchased the Raymarine ST 6001 S1G AP and I have found that it works great. Did it work correctly right out of the box?........NO!! I had to calibrate it in order for it to run correctly.

I had the opportunity to look at all of the other AP's out there and prob don't consider the Raymarine AP to be the best however, this is the one that I could afford for my rig. Is there one better.......Prob is!! Would I have bought the other I thought was better if the price were the same ........YES!!

The one thing I can say about Raymarine is their support has been very good. I will call them with a question and they do their best to answer it the best they can. One thing I have found with all support is, they do much more when more info/details are provided to them. Also, use a little sugar/humor when talking to the support personel, that always seems to help with breaking up the day for them and takes them away from the normal BS routine. In return, I get a more responsive person and get most of the answers I was looking for.

One of the things that I have learned is, "DO YOUR HOMEWORK" for anything that you are looking to buy in regards to equipment or electronic's. Don't buy anything because we did, he did or I did!! Do it for yourself and make it work for you. Most all of the electronics out there are good (there are a few low dollar ones I would stay away from) and will get the job done for you.

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Tsunami & GaryA,

Well said!!!!

By the way, I have a simrad AP-11. Works great, but does'nt have all those neat fishing patterns. ;?
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Old 04-13-2004, 08:30 PM
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Tsunami, nope, thats not it. It's blatent advertising I am reacting to. Birdman likes raymarine, thats ok, Thom liked Furuno, thats ok, Simrad has their following, no problem, and if there were a legitimate tr-1 customer that would be fine also. Heck, I really like simrad, even though I bought a ray, but I don't go around bashing brands just because I have economic incentive at stake.

At least become a sponsor and state your affiliation............
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Old 04-13-2004, 09:13 PM
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Ok, let me jump in here since my name is being thrown around!!

Personally, I really could care less about the guys that are pushing the TR1 unit. Have a blast. HOWEVER, if they post any mis-information about there own or another unit, KNOWINGLY, then I have a BIG problem. I've posted lots of mis-information here, but never knowlingly. So I learned something, great.

Now, I know NOTHING about the TR1 AP, and not much about any otherone except the S1G ONLY cause I just finished installing it. But one thing I do know about the TR1 is, I have met ONE person that has it installed on there boat. Wanna know how I met the person? They were shopping for a new AP unit cause the one they had did not function very good. Nuff said. Now, I haven't posted that cause like I said, I know nothing about the product and not much about all of them (AP's) as a whole, so I'll stay out of it.

In a few weeks, I'll certainly give you the full rundown on how, how good, how easy, and how accurate the S1G works or doesn't work.
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Old 04-13-2004, 09:17 PM
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gerg - 4/13/2004 7:30 PM

At least become a sponsor and state your affiliation............

I see Tr-1 is now a sponsor (congrats by the way). So all thats left is for them to rent a forum tent for the soliciting of work, and they are all set.


I agree Bird, hopefully by becoming an official sponsor, they will be more inclined to act like one.
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