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Old 04-05-2004, 12:32 AM
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Here's a few pic of the installed electronics and the entire boat. There's room for a second radio and an AP display when i add those. The DSM never lost bottom from idle to WOT (about 45.5 with fuel fuel 6 guys, 15-20 knot winds, and solid 2.5 with an occassional 3-3.5 4 sec period waves.





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Old 04-05-2004, 12:40 AM
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wow

maiden voyage today?
how's the suzi's?
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Actually, I took her out yesterday and today. Yesterday was solid 2.5 with an occassional 3-3.5 with a 4 second period (typical Panhgandle slop). We drifted beam to while picking up a bunch of grunts and squirrel fish for bai for today. Today was 2.5-3 with lots of whitecaps. It laid down nicely mid day, but was blowing again on the way home.

She handled very well and the Suzukis did fine. They are definitely overpropped...with 300 gallons of fuel (full tanks), 5 adults and 1 kid, we averaged about 1.1 MPG (105 gallons in 113 statute miles). WOT was 45.5, but all I could get was 5300 RPM. I got 5900 on her sea trial with 70 gallons of gas and 2 guys on board and we were flying (no GPS). 4000 RPM cruise was 30 MPH. The motors are too low (cav plates were well below the water line while on plane and when they go up, I'll determine if the props need to be swapped for smaller (right now they are 16x21.5). Mileage should be better, but the motors are new, the props probably too big, and the motors too low. I'll worry about it after those three items are resolved and on a flatter day.

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Install looks great. Plenty of room to work.
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Silverg,

Thanks for the compliment. It came out mostly right...I'm sort of a perfectionist, so I notice the small errors...like the fact that the C-120 sits a little lower than the radio and GPS (3/32"). This is because the templates for the radio and GPS are for the units themselves, while the template for the C-120 is for the unit with the cover on (though it does not indicate this on the template!). I'm probably the only guy that would ever notice it if I didn't say anything.

I intend to add another ICOM 502A radio soon and an AP next year, so it will fill right up. The nice thing about the electronics choices is that the Raynav 300 and C-120 communicate well with eachother...once I pull up a waypoint (on either unit), I can keep the chart view on the C-120 and use the CDI highway view on the Raynav 300...I don't have to give up viewing area on the C-120 to get that useful nav info. Had I gone with the Raystar 120 GPS (no display, I'd have had to give up space on the plotter when using the highway view. I also plan to buy a Raystar 120 for GPS redundancy...when I do, the Raynav 300 will be used in repeater mode, ignoring the signal from it's own antenna. If the Raystar 120 craps out, I'll just switch the Raynave 300 back to master and I'm back in business.

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Old 04-05-2004, 10:31 AM
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How is the performance of the radar?
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:55 AM
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Boat guy,

I don't have a scanner. I plan to get one in the late fall/winter.

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Old 04-05-2004, 11:04 AM
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Harry,
Looks nice, that's one hell of a setup!!

One thing though, after all the hoopla with the Ray VHF radio's, you went and isntalled an Icom?
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Birdman,

I never said Raymarine radios were the best, just that they were good radios. I still feel that way. I went with the ICOM because it has DSC in and output capability, something not availible in many radios. It is also widely considered to be the best recreational radio on the market. If Raymarine made a radio with DSC in and out I probably would have gotten it.

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Let us know about that fuel mileage when you get the motors right. That is a beautiful boat
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Thanks. I got only 1.1 yesterday, but the props are too big. I'd liek to see 1.5 fully loaded and 4500 RPMs, and it seems doable, but I won't know until I get the props swapped out in 2 weeks or so. Jim (Beast Charters) gets 2.0 at 33 MPH cruise with Honda 225s and 1/2 fuel 3-4 folks on board. The Suzukis supposedly are even better on gas, but that's just web heresay.

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Nice rig and rigging Harry! Do your units put you right on the waypoint, or do they turn off guidance too soon before actual arrival at waypoint? If they prematurely release you from guidance, how do you steer to dead nuts?
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:45 PM
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You can set the arrival zone for a very small distance. Once you get there, the unit says not following and the alarm goes off. It still gives bearing and distance, so you can still steer. On Sunday, I held the boat over a spot in reverse using only the bearing and distance...it's actually quite easy.

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Old 04-06-2004, 11:54 AM
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Awesome installation. Nice and clean. It will look good with the other radio and autopilot. How do you like the C120 so far?
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Old 04-06-2004, 01:12 PM
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Love it. Very bright, easy to use, the DSM250 is tops.

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Harry,
Hate to be a nag but, the new Ray radios all have DSC in and out.
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Not when I ordered my ICOM at the Miami show...not at their booth nor did the Defender guy have any info on them.

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Old 04-11-2004, 07:38 AM
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very nice job harry, by the way did you know that Raymarine will up grade the 300 gps to a 320 chartplotter for $150? I had a 300 with the boat when I bought it and it was upgraded-very cheap way to get a chartplotter and your case a back up.
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:18 AM
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Nice installation Harry.

I wonder why mine just quits giving steering then. I did call raymarine back when it first did it, and they said thats the way it's supposed to be and they are all like that. ahhh well, at least the new ones dont do it, thats all that matters really. It's just the excuse I need.
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