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B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

Old 10-28-2008, 12:33 PM
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Default B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

I just purchased a new 36 albemarle and we are putting the electronics package together this week. I need some advice on a ducer. We are going to be running ramarine G series on the boat and I have a choice of two ducers. I know the b260 is a better ducer, but some people tell me it really can change the speed and tracking of your boat. I like the idea that the tilted element does not have a fairing block and lays flat against the hull, but you loose some preformance using the tilted element.

Does any one have any recomendation of witch ducer to get.
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

It seems to me that the B260 would be the better choice for that boat. I have the B164 and love it but I had an issue with my original thru hull transducer causing enough turbulance to effect one of my my outboard motors. I think that the 260 with the proper fairing block would be fine and cause very little change in the running and handling of a boat that size. I'd ask Albemarle too.
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

BigBen, a STEELERS godsend!!!

You can have a B260 installed FLUSH. It's alot more work, but then you get the best of both worlds. Find a good clean accessable (from inside the hull) along the keel, forward of the running gear. If you have a good spot, then have your local fiberglass shop custom fabricate the B260 flush mounted right in the keel on the center line. It will require cutting a hole in the hull, fitting the ducer in, and glassing it off almost flush from both the outside and inside.

If you don't have a spot you can get to per above, then install the tilted 1kw as I ended up doing. I'm very happy with the tilted 1kw so far.
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You might want to consider going to the M260 in hull tank mount version instead, which will require a temperature sensor but will give you zero protrusions. If you want to spend another $500 dollars, the very best would be the new Airmar paired wide beam tilted element SS264W.
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Second that on the M260. Got one myself and I'm very happy with it. I don't know how much sensitivity I'm losing going through my hull, but I mark fish down to 300' with it and can hit bottom out to 3000' in a drift. The external speed and temp sensor, mounted on the transom, works great.


One recommendation I'd make is to mount it into some nice clean water near the stern or where you're sure never to suck air on plane. Airmar's diagrams show that it can be mounted amidships, which I did but closer to the starboard side where there was available space. At fast planing speeds (+30 kts), it'll drop out for about 1/2 a second while cooking along. This causes my sounder to hunt in auto mode if I'm in water better than 500'.

Also, slow-set epoxy/glass it to the hull, or use 4200/5200. Their original installation instructions said you could use quick-set epoxy or adhesive silicone, but this always led to the gylcol or mineral oil leaking. I think they amended the latest instructions to reflect as such.
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

The 1K tilted element has worked great for me and as clean of install as you can ask for at a resonable price without loosing any sensitivity.

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Default RE: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

i would really look at the new pair of tilted elements 50/200 new by airmar, $$$$$$$$ but it is worth it , flush mount, go to their site and check it out, good look
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

maybe it's what wickeditch is reffering to - but, depending on your intended water depths, I would also consider the SS264W's. They are individual 50 & 200hz 1kw tilted thru hulls w/ the same cone angle:

http://airmartechnology.com/airmar20...All&PageNo=512




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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

B164 tilted. I had a transome mount before this one. What a difference! I run it through my c120 Raymarine and I can see a clam scratching his nuts at ANY depth. A bit pricey though, buy very easy to install as long as you don't mind drilling a 3 3/4 inch hole in the bottom. No performance issues as all. I very happy with mine. Got through BOE.
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BuddahB - 10/31/2008 5:06 PM

B164 tilted. I had a transome mount before this one. What a difference! I run it through my c120 Raymarine and I can see a clam scratching his nuts at ANY depth. A bit pricey though, buy very easy to install as long as you don't mind drilling a 3 3/4 inch hole in the bottom. No performance issues as all. I very happy with mine. Got through BOE.

Now you got me wonderin son.... I've seen the neck.. so is that the neck? Or is that not the neck? Must be some kinda ducer because I run a 600 watt tilted Airmar and the best I've seen is a pair of crabs doin it rock lobster style ;?
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I’ve been running a B260 for 3 years now and I am going to change over to the tilted pair as soon as I get the bucks. I’m not sure I like the same angle on both frequencies but I still think I will be better off. I think the B260 has to narrow of a beam angle for the fishing I do. I fish in the top 300 ft. of the water column and that 6-degree beam angle just doesn’t cover anything, especially where I spend most of my time in the top 120 ft. or so.

Good luck, John
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

If you are going with the G series and DSM 400 I would consider two transducers one being a 2KW through hull and the other maybe a 1KW in hull they will give you the best of both worlds and allow you to use one or the other for different applications.
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BuddahB - 10/31/2008 8:06 PM

... and I can see a clam scratching his nuts at ANY depth. ......
I think I saw a picture of that over in the Sandbar!!!!
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

I thought the b-60 is a flush mount tranducer
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

buddahb,
if you fish in less than 50' do you notice a big difference between that transducer and the transom mount? I have a C120 with a P66 transom and a 600w in hull.
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

buddahB, what freq do you have?200?50? both? which works better in 50' or less?
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jwb - 1/5/2009 3:02 PM

buddahB, what freq do you have?200?50? both? which works better in 50' or less?
Use 200 kHz in that range. Maybe try 50 kHz when you hit 500'.
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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

I have been running a B260 for a few years now and wouldn't trade it for another transducer. We fish in 300- 4000 ft on the 50 side with fantastic results. If we are fishing in less than 300 we just switch over to 200 and have the same results. I did a fiberglass pocket keel mount.......Mark



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Default Re: B260 or a 1k Tilted element?

I just leave it on Auto Gain but in the shallower depts is selects the 200 I believe.

Yes, their was a marked difference in the display compaired to the transom mount P66. Just make sure of your deadrise degree angle if ordering one and make sure the arrow points to the keel.

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