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Old 10-13-2008, 06:00 AM
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Does anyone know which manufacturers and products were awarded last week at the NMEA convention?
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:27 AM
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I did a google search and this is what I came up with: http://www.boating-industry.com/output.cfm?id=1816417

SAN DIEGO, Calif. – Almost a dozen awards were handed out during the 2008 National Marine Electronics Association (NMEA) Convention in San Diego, Calif., Oct. 1-4, the association recently reported.

The awards are voted on by non-manufacturing active NMEA members and NMEA-certified marine electronics technicians.
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Taking home the Manufacturer of the Year – Support Award during this, the 37th anniversary of the NMEA awards, for the third straight year was Furuno. The company said the award “clearly illustrates what an important role customer service plays within Furuno USA and with our technical marine electronics dealer network.”

In addition, Furuno’s NavNet 3D won NMEA Awards in the three major categories; Radar, Navigation and Fish Finding. Furuno took top honors in the Radar Category for the thirty-third consecutive year with the NavNet 3D DRS Ultra Hi-Definition Radar Series. In the Navigation Category, Furuno took home the NMEA award for the NavNet 3D MFD12. The DFF1, NavNet 3D’s Network Sounder, received the award for Best Fish Finder for the 37th year in a row, according to the company.

Other award winners included:

Simrad, part of the Navico family of brands, which took home the Best Autopilot Award for its new AP24-AP28 autopilot series.

ICOM, which received the top honor in the Communications category for its M604 Fixed VHF.

KVH Industries, which won in the Entertainment category for its KVH TracVision M3-ST.

Airmar Techologies, which was recognized in the Marine Specialty category for its B164 Tilted Element Transducer.

FLIR Systems, Inc., which also was recognized in the Marine Specialty category. It was honored for its FLIR Navigator II Thermal Imaging System.

Steve Romin of Long Beach Marine, Inc., who was named Technician of the Year.

Raymarine, which received Best of Show for its G-Series.
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Nice SPAM.

In otherwords, Garmin had the best products at the "show", so Furuno had to pay the most aka, win the "award".

The NMEA org is useless and has done nothing but LIMIT the marine industry's technology.


Get out your popcorn!!!!

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Old 10-13-2008, 09:38 AM
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The NavNet 3D rollout was atrocious...it clearly shows customer satisfaction is not part of these awards....
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If you want to know whats best ask the installers and people who sell it. The awards are useless info. Furuno's navigation leaves alot to be desired, but their depthfinders and radar is topnotch. Garmin's navigational and autopilot (T-1) is best -but their radar and depthfinders stink.
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I'm not going to pretend I know it all, because I don't. But according to that link above, aren't the awards voted by the installers and people who sell it? Here's what it said "The awards are voted on by non-manufacturing active NMEA members and NMEA-certified marine electronics technicians." To me, that says Raymarine, Garmin, Furuno and the rest of the manufacturers don't vote, but the certified electronics dealers and installers DO vote. Am I missing something here?
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Justin009 - 10/13/2008 7:08 PM

I'm not going to pretend I know it all, because I don't. But according to that link above, aren't the awards voted by the installers and people who sell it? Here's what it said "The awards are voted on by non-manufacturing active NMEA members and NMEA-certified marine electronics technicians." To me, that says Raymarine, Garmin, Furuno and the rest of the manufacturers don't vote, but the certified electronics dealers and installers DO vote. Am I missing something here?
"The awards are voted on by non-manufacturing active NMEA members and NMEA-certified marine electronics technicians."

That is a MUCH different group of people than "Marine Electronics INSTALLERS". "Technicians means, people that WORK for the manufacturers and the NMEA organizations (aka, paid by the manufacturere's).

The awards are useless, get over it. If you want to see which units are the bet, simply look at sales. Garmin has about 80 to 90% of the market in sales right now. That is because they are making the best products.
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RocknReeln - 10/13/2008 6:59 PM

Garmin's navigational and autopilot (T-1) is best -but their radar and depthfinders stink.

I have the Garmin 24" HD radar, it is the by far, the best Radar I have ever seen, on any boat. It seems to have better detail than several 3' arrays in my marina by other manufact.'s I have compared it to. The GSD22 depth finder is as good as all the rest, in water below 300', very happy with the unit. My one trip offshore this season, showed they have some software adjustments to make in water depths below 400 or 500', but I'm, sure that will be fixed as Garmin has been amazing at updating their software.
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"The awards are voted on by non-manufacturing active NMEA members and NMEA-certified marine electronics technicians."
"Technicians means, people that WORK for the manufacturers and the NMEA organizations (aka, paid by the manufacturere's).
This statement couldn't be more wrong, but past experience has shown you do not understand being wrong.
The NMEA members that vote are all BUT manufacturers. Why don't you contact NMEA for a clarification.

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cravenMH - 10/14/2008 3:47 PM

The NMEA members that vote are all BUT manufacturers. Why don't you contact NMEA for a clarification.
Yea sure, and while I'm at it I'll ask Oboma which candidate is better, I can expect the same "clarification". LOL!!
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There are non-manufacturing members of NMEA, companies that sell, integrate and install marine electronics. They get paid by people who can't install their own electronics. Garmin equipment is very simple to install, and Garmin doesn't require you to go thru an Installing Dealer. This is not popular with non-manufacturing technicians who are members of NMEA. They prefer to vote for the systems that make them the most money.

So, if you like to install your own stuff, stay away from anything that wins a prive at a NMEA convention. Their standards are way good, but when it comes to selling us stuff, NMEA is not our friend.
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Birdman - 10/14/2008 9:07 AM

The awards are useless, get over it. If you want to see which units are the bet, simply look at sales. Garmin has about 80 to 90% of the market in sales right now. That is because they are making the best products.

80- 90%.... Where do you get those figures?
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:47 PM
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Birdbrain got them from the Broker who sold him Garmin Stock a year ago.................:-D

If Garmin was the better product, Garmin would have won. It isn't and it didn't.

For those who don't get my dig, Garmin stock was at 125 a year ago and today it was 22. A mere 83% down in 52 weeks.


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ricknav - 10/17/2008 12:47 PM

Birdbrain got them from the Broker who sold him Garmin Stock a year ago.................:-D

If Garmin was the better product, Garmin would have won. It isn't and it didn't.

For those who don't get my dig, Garmin stock was at 125 a year ago and today it was 22. A mere 83% down in 52 weeks.

Not to mention the Raymarine share price on the London Stock Exchange! The 52 week scope varies between 60p and 350p. I was talking to a Raymarine certified techical installer who was not very complimetary of the Raymarie G-series. He said that in order to compete with similar products, Raymarine were includig the world charts for free (Navionics Gold) and Platium charts for the region of operation. That was for Australia, not sure what the deal is in the US market?

As for Garmin having the market share.......i thik not. How many new boats do you see with Garmin radar? Their plotters have limited functionality. Birdma, if you think the Garmin sounder ad radar works well the I suggest you book a trip with a Furuno UHD Radar and DFF1 or 3.........you'll be blow away.
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Down boys! Down! All I hear is blind product loyalty, and most of that is based on hearsay. I'll first believe anyone who has compared two equivalent products side by side, with no gotchas in between. The second one I'll believe is someone who uses both on two similar boats. I don't want to hear what someone else told you, and I'm not interested in personal opinions, no matter how much you love your own. Lets have some objectivity here!

And the NMEA convention is NOT a place to find Objectivity.
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sandyda - 10/17/2008 9:32 AM

And the NMEA convention is NOT a place to find Objectivity.
Isn't that an opinion if you haven't attended one?
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I'm going to comment on the Garmin because I have one.

Great plotter
Good Radar
Average sounder
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